Taya Chain

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday with one I had in my
garage that I must have purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on it. It's for 6,7,8
gearing. It seems okay, but I think that this is the first time I've
used a chain with a connecting link since childhood. I looked up Taya
and it's a big Taiwanese chain manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my road bike which I bought
from a friend as NOS, for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link, mounted with hammer and
anvil as usual. To my utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really put the coals on
because of our hills. Even the old Wippermann chains could not rival
that. I am very religious about chain cleaning and lube though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three days after the bike
was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta hardening process was
not only exceptional but unsurpassed down to today except for possibly
Record chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the Sedisport 6/7 chains.
About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating "pre-owned" in
the ad, meaning used and who knows for how many miles or whether
properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and it was
a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a secret on
how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya tell your mama or
anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a hero is.

On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:27:30 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

And Audie Murphy, who was I believe, the most decorated U.S. service
man in WW II was a poor actor.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 7:06:20 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:27:30 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

And Audie Murphy, who was I believe, the most decorated U.S. service
man in WW II was a poor actor.

Whereas your favorite actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger and
Leonardo DiCaprio are simply great actors.

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:27:34 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

Meh. What's he doing on this Hodaka then?
https://www.google.com/search?q=john... NJY3Oxzv6pM:
Let's see him ride a Maico 490

On 2017-09-05 11:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:27:34 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

Meh. What's he doing on this Hodaka then?
https://www.google.com/search?q=john... NJY3Oxzv6pM:
Let's see him ride a Maico 490


Seems like he rode others as well:

http://www.graphicsexpress.com/shop/images/th2_MC-3.jpg

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 07:11:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 7:06:20 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:27:30 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

And Audie Murphy, who was I believe, the most decorated U.S. service
man in WW II was a poor actor.

Whereas your favorite actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger and
Leonardo DiCaprio are simply great actors.

I don't have "favorite actors" I haven't watch a (what would you call
it, a Movie?) either on the screen or via Television) in probably 30
years.

In fact when I read a news article mentioning "XYZ the Star of ABC" my
first thought is "Who", and my second is, "Unimportant".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:27:34 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday
with one I had in my garage that I must have
purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on
it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems okay, but
I think that this is the first time I've used a
chain with a connecting link since childhood. I
looked up Taya and it's a big Taiwanese chain
manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my
road bike which I bought from a friend as NOS,
for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link,
mounted with hammer and anvil as usual. To my
utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really
put the coals on because of our hills. Even the
old Wippermann chains could not rival that. I am
very religious about chain cleaning and lube
though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three
days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly Record
chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range stating
"pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who knows for how
many miles or whether properly maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear. Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear men's
underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the day"
runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar and
it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you in on a
secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but don't ya
tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood after
the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them (often the guys
that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple hearts. Even Soupy
Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception was, surprisingly, John
Wayne, who volunteered three times but they wouldn't let him in
because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what a
hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw "Flying
Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Uhm... OTOH, we have him saying to a Viet Namese 6-y/o, at the end of 'the green berets': "You're what this is all about." Yea, rite. Uh-huh.

On 2017-09-06 11:10, Doug Landau wrote:
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:27:34 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-02 07:56, wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:49:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-30 18:00, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:31:55 PM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-29 14:38, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-29 09:42, sms wrote:
On 8/28/2017 3:59 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM
UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on
Saturday with one I had in my garage that I
must have purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya"
on it. It's for 6,7,8 gearing. It seems
okay, but I think that this is the first
time I've used a chain with a connecting
link since childhood. I looked up Taya and
it's a big Taiwanese chain manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on
my road bike which I bought from a friend as
NOS, for $6 which was the old sticker price
(the sticker had already turned brownish). No
link, mounted with hammer and anvil as usual.
To my utter amazement it doesn't show any
measurable stretch after over 2000mi and
sometimes I really put the coals on because
of our hills. Even the old Wippermann chains
could not rival that. I am very religious
about chain cleaning and lube though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out
three days after the bike was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta
hardening process was not only exceptional but
unsurpassed down to today except for possibly
Record chains. That ended with SRAM.

You can still find some NOS (new old stock) of the
Sedisport 6/7 chains. About $25.


I saw a lot of them on EBay at that price range
stating "pre-owned" in the ad, meaning used and who
knows for how many miles or whether properly
maintained.

The topper I ever saw was "pre-owned" underwear.
Yikes.

What if they were pre-owned by Elizabeth Taylor?


It was men's underwear ...

What makes you think that Elizabeth Taylor didn't wear
men's underwear? She got pretty large near the end.

In a less humorousness vein, did you know that "back in the
day" runners used to wear women's panties?


I remember a cowboy on horseback telling us something similar
and it was a real manly John Wayne style guy. "Now I'll let you
in on a secret on how to avoid rashes from very long rides, but
don't ya tell your mama or anyone for that matter, ya hear?"

Speaking of manly - virtually every single star in Hollywood
after the mid-40's had been in the service and many of them
(often the guys that played bad guys) had silver stars and purple
hearts. Even Soupy Sales and Ernest Borgnine. The one exception
was, surprisingly, John Wayne, who volunteered three times but
they wouldn't let him in because of a bad back or something.

Today we have these guys playing heros that don't even know what
a hero is.


John Wayne could certainly play them right. On Sunday we saw
"Flying Tigers" for the umpteenth time.

What was one of his sayings? "Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyhow".

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Uhm... OTOH, we have him saying to a Viet Namese 6-y/o, at the end of
'the green berets': "You're what this is all about." Yea, rite.
Uh-huh.


He was right. If we hadn't lost that war the 6-year olds back then would
now not have to live under communism.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-08-28 15:59, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2017 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-28 13:43, sms wrote:
I replaced the chain that I broke on Saturday with one I had in my
garage that I must have purchased five to ten years ago.

It has a connecting link and it says "Taya" on it. It's for 6,7,8
gearing. It seems okay, but I think that this is the first time I've
used a chain with a connecting link since childhood. I looked up Taya
and it's a big Taiwanese chain manufacturer.


I still have a Sachs-Sedis 7-speed chain on my road bike which I bought
from a friend as NOS, for $6 which was the old sticker price (the
sticker had already turned brownish). No link, mounted with hammer and
anvil as usual. To my utter amazement it doesn't show any measurable
stretch after over 2000mi and sometimes I really put the coals on
because of our hills. Even the old Wippermann chains could not rival
that. I am very religious about chain cleaning and lube though.

The old 5-6-7 speed Sachs chains wore out three days after the bike
was junked.


The Sedis (later Sachs-Sedis) material and Delta hardening process was
not only exceptional but unsurpassed down to today except for possibly
Record chains. That ended with SRAM.


Why is that? In the automotive world such an advance in technology is
kept and further developed, not rescinded and chucked back into the dust
bin. Well, usually.

For example, transmissions nowadays typically last the whole lifetime of
a car. 20+ years for us on two vehicles so far, for everything. Vehicle
owners would have a hissy fit if they had to swap out a chain every 5000
miles.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/