Is the lack of healthcare coverage keeping you away from biking?

On Oct 12, 8:50*am, wrote:
LAck of insurance doesnt keep the illegal "wrong way jose's" from
riding around here. *They ride against traffic,no lights, etc. *If
they get hit guess who pays? You and I . *The wonderful medicaid plan
to keep illegals and indigents alive drains the economy. * I work and
have insurance so dont really worry about getting hit.

I think you are getting ripped off, not because the illegal
immigrants, but because you spend the most money for having covered
the least amount of people in the civilized world. Somebody must be to
blame beside the wetbacks: INSURANCE COMPANIES, BUREAUCRACIES, GREEDY
DOCTORS, etc, etc.

I am an AMERICAN. Not one of the emasculated Eurpoeans that are
afraid to fight. America was founded by independent patriots who did
not believe in the government caring for everyone from cradle to
grave. I like many others wish hey would ELIMINATE all social
programs. Work or you dont eat. Dont eat and you die. Fewer
criminals in our society and fewer wastes of skin. I dont care how
much doctors etc get paid if I only pay $35for a hospital stay!!!


On Oct 12, 1:00*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
On Oct 12, 8:50*am, wrote:

LAck of insurance doesnt keep the illegal "wrong way jose's" from
riding around here. *They ride against traffic,no lights, etc. *If
they get hit guess who pays? You and I . *The wonderful medicaid plan
to keep illegals and indigents alive drains the economy. * I work and
have insurance so dont really worry about getting hit.

I think you are getting ripped off, not because the illegal
immigrants, but because you spend the most money for having covered
the least amount of people in the civilized world. Somebody must be to
blame beside the wetbacks: INSURANCE COMPANIES, BUREAUCRACIES, GREEDY
DOCTORS, etc, etc.

On Oct 12, 1:59*pm, wrote:
I am an AMERICAN. *Not one of the emasculated Eurpoeans that are
afraid to fight. *America was founded by independent patriots who did
not believe in the government caring for everyone from cradle to
grave. *I like many others wish hey would ELIMINATE all social
programs. *Work or you dont eat. *Dont eat and you die. Fewer
criminals in our society and fewer wastes of skin. *I dont care how
much doctors etc get paid if I only pay $35for a hospital stay!!!

Are you doing the actual fight, or you just rely on the children of
the poor to do the fight for your kind so they can enjoy the same
benefits (education and health) the other young people get for free in
the civilized world?

Why then you called your system DEMOCRACY, and not something far more
honest like JUNGLE?

On 12 Oct, 18:59, wrote:
I am an AMERICAN. *Not one of the emasculated Eurpoeans that are
afraid to fight. *America was founded by independent patriots who did
not believe in the government caring for everyone from cradle to
grave. *I like many others wish hey would ELIMINATE all social
programs. *Work or you dont eat. *Dont eat and you die. Fewer
criminals in our society and fewer wastes of skin. *I dont care how
much doctors etc get paid if I only pay $35for a hospital stay!!!

On Oct 12, 1:00*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:



On Oct 12, 8:50*am, wrote:

LAck of insurance doesnt keep the illegal "wrong way jose's" from
riding around here. *They ride against traffic,no lights, etc. *If
they get hit guess who pays? You and I . *The wonderful medicaid plan
to keep illegals and indigents alive drains the economy. * I work and
have insurance so dont really worry about getting hit.

I think you are getting ripped off, not because the illegal
immigrants, but because you spend the most money for having covered
the least amount of people in the civilized world. Somebody must be to
blame beside the wetbacks: INSURANCE COMPANIES, BUREAUCRACIES, GREEDY
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Us Brits aren't afraid to fight, you Yanks are always last in

On Oct 13, 1:46*pm, Sir Jeremy wrote:
On 12 Oct, 18:59, wrote:





I am an AMERICAN. *Not one of the emasculated Eurpoeans that are
afraid to fight. *America was founded by independent patriots who did
not believe in the government caring for everyone from cradle to
grave. *I like many others wish hey would ELIMINATE all social
programs. *Work or you dont eat. *Dont eat and you die. Fewer
criminals in our society and fewer wastes of skin. *I dont care how
much doctors etc get paid if I only pay $35for a hospital stay!!!

On Oct 12, 1:00*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Oct 12, 8:50*am, wrote:

LAck of insurance doesnt keep the illegal "wrong way jose's" from
riding around here. *They ride against traffic,no lights, etc. *If
they get hit guess who pays? You and I . *The wonderful medicaid plan
to keep illegals and indigents alive drains the economy. * I work and
have insurance so dont really worry about getting hit.

I think you are getting ripped off, not because the illegal
immigrants, but because you spend the most money for having covered
the least amount of people in the civilized world. Somebody must be to
blame beside the wetbacks: INSURANCE COMPANIES, BUREAUCRACIES, GREEDY
DOCTORS, etc, etc.- Hide quoted text -

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Us Brits aren't afraid to fight, you Yanks are always last in- Hide quoted text -

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I wonder if if the Brits wonder why they are fighing along the United
Selfish of America. Well, no wonder you are pulling out of Iraq.

(back to the original subject)

On Oct 11, 7:18 pm, trog69 wrote:
And once again, the Christian is found to be a lying sack of ****. Far
more Canadians are happy with their health care than the US is of
theirs. Since the lowliest tree-dwelling drunken stew bum in Canada
can still get treated for a health condition, I can see why.

Nice little Christian "Screw you; I got mine" attitude we see so
frequently, authoritarian boy.

I see something fundamentally wrong with that mentality prevalent in
United Selfish of America.

I think is the SELFISH GENE wich leads to the big fish eating the
little fish.

On Oct 15, 7:57 pm, thea wrote:

One of my older doctors when to England to see how their medicine worked.
He informed me that I wouldn't be happy with that either. He said it was
like the people were trying to push their way in for care, and the physician
was pushing back because he was on his way to play golf.
So much for Universal Health Care -- but something does have to give in
America. It costs way to much to have anything done -- the doctors charge
an arm and a leg just to see you for 15 minutes, and then if you need more
time - tough!

Well, your doctor caught the wrong plane... He should have gone to
Taiwan.

Health Care in Taiwan
My last foray into international health care systems focused on
Singapore, a tiny island nation whose much-lauded health care system
represents an interesting public-private mix. But there’s another
island, not too far away, that also makes for a compelling case study
in health care -- in this instance through a single-payer system:
Taiwan.

A handful of commentators have already hooked onto the fact that
Taiwan’s health care system provides an instructive example of single-
payer: Merrill Goozner and Ezra Klein both noted a well-written
Congressional Quarterly article on Taiwan’s system earlier this year,
and British analyst Ian Williams writes lauds Taiwanese health care in
the winter 2008 edition of Dissent magazine.

The buzz around Taiwan’s National Health Insurance (NHI) system stems
from the fact that some of its vital stats are stunning, particularly
in comparison to the United States. NHI covers 99 percent of the
Taiwanese population; in the U.S., 15 percent of the population lacks
health insurance. Taiwan spends a mere 6.2 percent of its GDP on
health care; the U.S., 16.3 percent. Administrative costs make up only
1.5 percent of NHI’s budget, while administration accounts for about
7.5 percent of American health care expenditures.

Single-payer critics habitually fret about long wait times, but a 2005
article in the journal International Medical Management (IMM) reports
that wait-times are almost non-existent in Taiwan, and that Taiwanese
doctors cycle through patients speedily enough to “see approximately
50 percent more patients than their counterparts in the U.S. on a
weekly basis.” All in all, Taiwanese are far happier with their health
care system than we Americans are with ours: last year the national
satisfaction rate with health care in Taiwan was 77.5 percent. By way
of contrast, an August Commonwealth Fund poll shows that 82 percent of
Americans think that the U.S. healthcare system should be
fundamentally changed or completely rebuilt.

Admittedly, Taiwan’s single-payer system certainly isn’t all sunshine
and rainbows--but it is instructive for those thinking about how to
best reform the U.S. system.

http://www.healthbeatblog.org/2008/0...h-care-in.html

Asians are healthier cuz theyre skinny

On Oct 16, 12:02*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:57 pm, thea wrote:

One of my older doctors when to England to see how their medicine worked.
He informed me that I wouldn't be happy with that either. *He said it was
like the people were trying to push their way in for care, and the physician
was pushing back because he was on his way to play golf.
So much for Universal Health Care -- but something does have to give in
America. *It costs way to much to have anything done -- the doctors charge
an arm and a leg just to see you for 15 minutes, and then if you need more
time - tough!

Well, your doctor caught the wrong plane... He should have gone to
Taiwan.

Health Care in Taiwan
My last foray into international health care systems focused on
Singapore, a tiny island nation whose much-lauded health care system
represents an interesting public-private mix. But there’s another
island, not too far away, that also makes for a compelling case study
in health care -- in this instance through a single-payer system:
Taiwan.

A handful of commentators have already hooked onto the fact that
Taiwan’s health care system provides an instructive example of single-
payer: Merrill Goozner and Ezra Klein both noted a well-written
Congressional Quarterly article on Taiwan’s system earlier this year,
and British analyst Ian Williams writes lauds Taiwanese health care in
the winter 2008 edition of Dissent magazine.

The buzz around Taiwan’s National Health Insurance (NHI) system stems
from the fact that some of its vital stats are stunning, particularly
in comparison to the United States. NHI covers 99 percent of the
Taiwanese population; in the U.S., 15 percent of the population lacks
health insurance. Taiwan spends a mere 6.2 percent of its GDP on
health care; the U.S., 16.3 percent. Administrative costs make up only
1.5 percent of NHI’s budget, while administration accounts for about
7.5 percent of American health care expenditures.

Single-payer critics habitually fret about long wait times, but a 2005
article in the journal International Medical Management (IMM) reports
that wait-times are almost non-existent in Taiwan, and that Taiwanese
doctors cycle through patients speedily enough to “see approximately
50 percent more patients than their counterparts in the U.S. on a
weekly basis.” All in all, Taiwanese are far happier with their health
care system than we Americans are with ours: last year the national
satisfaction rate with health care in Taiwan was 77.5 percent. By way
of contrast, an August Commonwealth Fund poll shows that 82 percent of
Americans think that the U.S. healthcare system should be
fundamentally changed or completely rebuilt.

Admittedly, Taiwan’s single-payer system certainly isn’t all sunshine
and rainbows--but it is instructive for those thinking about how to
best reform the U.S. system.

http://www.healthbeatblog.org/2008/0...h-care-in.html

On Oct 16, 4:50*pm, wrote:
Asians are healthier cuz theyre skinny

On Oct 16, 12:02*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote:



On Oct 15, 7:57 pm, thea wrote:

One of my older doctors when to England to see how their medicine worked.
He informed me that I wouldn't be happy with that either. *He said it was
like the people were trying to push their way in for care, and the physician
was pushing back because he was on his way to play golf.
So much for Universal Health Care -- but something does have to give in
America. *It costs way to much to have anything done -- the doctors charge
an arm and a leg just to see you for 15 minutes, and then if you need more
time - tough!

Well, your doctor caught the wrong plane... He should have gone to
Taiwan.

Health Care in Taiwan
My last foray into international health care systems focused on
Singapore, a tiny island nation whose much-lauded health care system
represents an interesting public-private mix. But there’s another
island, not too far away, that also makes for a compelling case study
in health care -- in this instance through a single-payer system:
Taiwan.

A handful of commentators have already hooked onto the fact that
Taiwan’s health care system provides an instructive example of single-
payer: Merrill Goozner and Ezra Klein both noted a well-written
Congressional Quarterly article on Taiwan’s system earlier this year,
and British analyst Ian Williams writes lauds Taiwanese health care in
the winter 2008 edition of Dissent magazine.

The buzz around Taiwan’s National Health Insurance (NHI) system stems
from the fact that some of its vital stats are stunning, particularly
in comparison to the United States. NHI covers 99 percent of the
Taiwanese population; in the U.S., 15 percent of the population lacks
health insurance. Taiwan spends a mere 6.2 percent of its GDP on
health care; the U.S., 16.3 percent. Administrative costs make up only
1.5 percent of NHI’s budget, while administration accounts for about
7.5 percent of American health care expenditures.

Single-payer critics habitually fret about long wait times, but a 2005
article in the journal International Medical Management (IMM) reports
that wait-times are almost non-existent in Taiwan, and that Taiwanese
doctors cycle through patients speedily enough to “see approximately
50 percent more patients than their counterparts in the U.S. on a
weekly basis.” All in all, Taiwanese are far happier with their health
care system than we Americans are with ours: last year the national
satisfaction rate with health care in Taiwan was 77.5 percent. By way
of contrast, an August Commonwealth Fund poll shows that 82 percent of
Americans think that the U.S. healthcare system should be
fundamentally changed or completely rebuilt.

Admittedly, Taiwan’s single-payer system certainly isn’t all sunshine
and rainbows--but it is instructive for those thinking about how to
best reform the U.S. system.

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And they also may be smarter. At least in Taiwan they ride fun,
thrifty scooters.

On Oct 18, 2:35 pm, Chris wrote:
you didn't answer the question (that I posed indirectly) - should it
be up to some bureaucrat to decide how many procedures a doctor can
perform in a given time period, which could lessen your ability to
receive required treatment?
If you're not going to answer, simply refrain from Bolshevik-style
anti-capitalist jargon. Comrade.

Nyet (pardon my Russian), no bureaucracy (America is still #1 when it
comes to administrative costs), but no people being denied healthcare
either, or such that they have to fill out so much paperwork, that
they rather die without attention.

Obama mentions PREVENTION (not that I trust him) and that comes from
having, among things, the opportunity to ride a bike in safety,
something very rear in America. But, of course, the revolution offers
that and more...

PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1

Hey Mr McCain/Obama, now that we know about Joe Plumber, HOW ABOUT JOE
BIKER? Yeah, that one that can't afford a car, let alone gas and
insurance, and who simply wants to ride a bicycle to help himself and
the environment?

He's not anywhere in your pretty speeches, even though he could be the
first step toward PREVENTIVE MEDICINE and POLLUTION PAINS...

I sincerely think both of you are feeding the pipe dream...