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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver
decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ “If we are to prevent these deaths before they occur, then we must focus the minds of drivers” Joe Shute |
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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
colwyn wrote:
Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ The only people who give a flying **** about cyclists, are cyclists. Nobody else gives a **** about cyclists. Why can't you understand this? |
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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
On Tuesday, 31 May 2016 20:45:05 UTC+2, colwyn wrote:
Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ They're all at it. https://t.co/iqRZT8sERF |
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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:01:00 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote: colwyn wrote: Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ The only people who give a flying **** about cyclists, are cyclists. no he didn't Nobody else gives a **** about cyclists. Why can't you understand this? You seem to be talking to the wrong audience. PS you seem to have misattributed. And used rude words; please wipe the phlegm off your screen. But if it makes you happy, don't worry about your blood pressure. (There will now follow some irrelevant nonsense about driving lessons) -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug |
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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
On 01.06.2016 07:01, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
colwyn wrote: Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ The only people who give a flying **** about cyclists, are cyclists. Nobody else gives a **** about cyclists. Why can't you understand this? Thank god for that. I do not care if you do not give a **** about me. |
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Banned drivers, are they tomorrows rouge cyclists?
colwyn wrote:
Just watched 1/2 a dozen drivers ignoring red lights - until one driver decided to block the junction.( A regular occurrence unfortunately, especially at roadworks) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/recre...kill-cyclists/ The UK is a sick place - and by that, I mean 'ill' rather than 'perverse'. The hatred directed at cyclists in the UK is akin to racism and anti-Semitism in that it is out of all proportion to any 'nuisance' real or perceived - and it is also completely immune to reason, education or persuasion. For example, no other class of road user is constantly told that it does not have the 'right' to be on the public highway because it does not pay a 'tax' that in fact does not exist and has not existed for almost eighty years. In other words, no one pays this 'tax' but because cyclists don't pay this 'tax', they can't get to use the roads that motorists use, despite the fact that they don't pay this 'tax' either. No other class of road user is constantly told that it is must 'behave' before it gets infrastructure paid for from council tax and central taxation (to which of course, every wage earner contributes). Fatal or near-fatal collisions involving cyclists and pedestrians are treated as national scandals and an affront to the British way of life only one step down from assassination of the Queen, thus fuelling more the hatred directed at cyclists. Fatal or near-fatal collisions involving drivers usually don't make the media, unless there are special circumstances worthy of reporting, like drugs, alcohol or a large number of victims (or a famous victim). There are two possible ways to combat this. Eventually, things will change. It will take decades - perhaps even generations. But eventually, the witch hunt will be over, and cycling will no longer equate to taking one's life in one's hands. Sadly, that will probably have to wait for driverless cars, since car drivers have demonstrated all too amply that they cannot be trusted to be in control of a ton or more of metal, glass and plastic - or that on the rare occasions when their innate psychopathy is not exposed by the machine, they simply lack the ability to control that vehicle safely. But - as my savage put-downs of the trolls and idiots on this and other newsgroups demonstrate all too amply - I am not the most patient of men. The other option is a bit quicker, and it involves making drivers pay a high price for their aggression. A price so high that many of them will quite simply be unwilling to pay it. The police, CPS and courts have sent a clear message: cyclists do not matter. Cyclists thus have to send an equally clear message to drivers: respect my rights, or I am going to hurt you. The law is clear in that no person has to wait to be assaulted, before defending himself. The legal definition of common assault is any act which intentionally or recklessly, causes another person to apprehend immediate and unlawful personal violence (_Fagan v. _ _Metropolitan Police Commissioner_ [1969] 1 QB 439). If a driver shouts at you, gesticulates, threatens you whilst in his car, leave the scene. Do not engage him. If a driver gets out of his car after a verbal altercation, he is quite obviously intending to punch you, and you do not have to wait for him to do so, before defending yourself. As soon as his foot touches the ground, hit the door with all of your weight, trapping his leg between it and the body of the car. With your other arm, which has now removed the D-lock from your belt, hit him hard in the head. Once he goes down, do NOT hit him again. The last thing you need is a conviction for ABH or murder. If he is unconscious, place him in the recovery position, remove the keys from his vehicle, and cycle away. Unfortunately, this is a cultural change. It is like asking the Spanish to stop bullfighting, or the French to stop eating meat. It will take time, but if you do not start to safeguard - and defend - your rights, the state will not do it for you. They have left no one in any doubt on that score. “If we are to prevent these deaths before they occur, then we must focus the minds of drivers” Nothing focuses the mind of a psychopath like a 1 kg D-lock travelling at 50 m/s. -- john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons) 'It never gets any easier. You just get faster' (Greg LeMond (1961 - )) |
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