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Old May 27th 07, 10:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Jorg Lueke
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In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?

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Old May 28th 07, 02:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Claire Petersky
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"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
ups.com...
In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way.


Yes.

Does it matter much what one eats?


Yes.

Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride?


Yes.

I would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
you're riding


Yes, depending on the length of the ride.

(who carries pasta salad? I've seen some!)


Usually a rice salad, either French or Chinese style, for a long ride.

But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


Depends on a lot of things. If you're riding 50 miles in two hours, I'd
think you'd need more refueling than if you're riding 30 in three.

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Old May 28th 07, 03:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
nash
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"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
ups.com...
In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle use.


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Old May 28th 07, 04:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Jorg Lueke
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On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:
"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message

ups.com...

In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle use.



Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
those during your rest or light activity days but not around or duing
the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent job of
listing the basic options for most common types of rides

http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm

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Old May 28th 07, 04:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Claire Petersky" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
ups.com...
In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way.


Yes.

Does it matter much what one eats?


Yes.

Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride?


Yes.

I would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
you're riding


Yes, depending on the length of the ride.

(who carries pasta salad? I've seen some!)


Usually a rice salad, either French or Chinese style, for a long ride.

But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


Depends on a lot of things. If you're riding 50 miles in two hours, I'd
think you'd need more refueling than if you're riding 30 in three.


Claire with the Slavic last name never tires of advising us what we should
eat and drink, but I require more details. Please Claire with the Slavic
last name, tell us what you nibble on when you ride your trusty bicycle.
Spare us nothing. Your domesticity is always a delight for all of us male
slobs to ponder here on RBM.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old May 28th 07, 04:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Jorg Lueke
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On May 28, 4:02 pm, Jorg Lueke wrote:
On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:

"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message


oups.com...


In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle use.


Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
those during your rest or light activity days but not around or duing
the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent job of
listing the basic options for most common types of rides

http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm



I suppose I should have just read the faq :P

http://draco.nac.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/9.20.html

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Old May 29th 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
nash
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"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:
"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message

ups.com...

In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle
use.



Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
those during your rest or light activity days but not around or duing
the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent job of
listing the basic options for most common types of rides

http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm


Well, even chicken is only 15% protein so it would not hurt to have it
assimilated for when you stop the ride. Our company nurse said to eat
protein during work and carbohydrates to help you sleep which seems to be
the reverse but maybe both are good.


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Old May 29th 07, 07:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Tom Keats
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In article KRW6i.236508$aG1.174023@pd7urf3no,
"nash" writes:

"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:
"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message

ups.com...

In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?

I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle
use.



Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
those during your rest or light activity days but not around or duing
the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent job of
listing the basic options for most common types of rides

http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm


Well, even chicken is only 15% protein so it would not hurt to have it
assimilated for when you stop the ride. Our company nurse said to eat
protein during work and carbohydrates to help you sleep which seems to be
the reverse but maybe both are good.


I think for a non-racing rider a certain balance of
simple and complex carbs, plus some protein is good.
I believe having some protein helps buffer the rate
at which the carbs are metabolized. And protein-y
foods satisfy, and keep the hunger pangs at bay for
longer periods, so one can think more clearly.

Peanut butter & jam sandwiches on whole-grain bread
have all that. Protein in the peanut butter, simple
carbs in the jam, complex carbs in the whole-grain
bread. Also, PBJ sandwiches are portable, they last
for a while out of the fridge, and they don't
disintegrate in your hands while you're eating them.

I think the main thing is to avoid eating too much
oily/fatty/greasy/rich stuff while exercising.
PBJ sandwiches - good.
Oyster, anchovie & double cheese pizza - not so good.


cheers,
Tom

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Old May 30th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Jorg Lueke
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On May 29, 7:41 pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:
In article KRW6i.236508$aG1.174023@pd7urf3no,
"nash" writes:





"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:
"Jorg Lueke" wrote in message


groups.com...


In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good idea to
eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much what one eats?
Does it make a difference if it's during rather than after a ride? I
would think simple sugars like fruit and even candy would be OK while
your riding but maybe not as good after you are done. While more
complex carbs like trail mix and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've
seen some!) seem better after the ride. But does it make a big
difference in general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?


I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your muscle
use.


Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
those during your rest or light activity days but not around or duing
the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent job of
listing the basic options for most common types of rides


http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm


Well, even chicken is only 15% protein so it would not hurt to have it
assimilated for when you stop the ride. Our company nurse said to eat
protein during work and carbohydrates to help you sleep which seems to be
the reverse but maybe both are good.


I think for a non-racing rider a certain balance of
simple and complex carbs, plus some protein is good.
I believe having some protein helps buffer the rate
at which the carbs are metabolized. And protein-y
foods satisfy, and keep the hunger pangs at bay for
longer periods, so one can think more clearly.

Peanut butter & jam sandwiches on whole-grain bread
have all that. Protein in the peanut butter, simple
carbs in the jam, complex carbs in the whole-grain
bread. Also, PBJ sandwiches are portable, they last
for a while out of the fridge, and they don't
disintegrate in your hands while you're eating them.

I think the main thing is to avoid eating too much
oily/fatty/greasy/rich stuff while exercising.
PBJ sandwiches - good.
Oyster, anchovie & double cheese pizza - not so good.

cheers,
Tom

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Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


Thanks Tom. I dfinitely agree on the fatty stuff. I try to avoid fat
in general as it slows you down regardless of whether your biking or
working.

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Old May 30th 07, 12:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Roger Zoul
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Jorg Lueke wrote:
:: On May 29, 7:41 pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:
::: In article KRW6i.236508$aG1.174023@pd7urf3no,
::: "nash" writes:
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::: "Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
:::: ups.com...
::::: On May 28, 3:33 pm, "nash" wrote:
:::::: "Jorg Lueke" wrote in message
:::
:::::: ups.com...
:::
::::::: In the middle of burning 2000 calories it seems to be a good
::::::: idea to eat a few calories along the way. Does it matter much
::::::: what one eats? Does it make a difference if it's during rather
::::::: than after a ride? I would think simple sugars like fruit and
::::::: even candy would be OK while your riding but maybe not as good
::::::: after you are done. While more complex carbs like trail mix
::::::: and pasta (who carries pasta salad? I've seen some!) seem
::::::: better after the ride. But does it make a big difference in
::::::: general for 2-3 hours 30-50 miles?
:::
:::::: I thought protein would be the choice during the ride for your
:::::: muscle use.
:::
::::: Muscles are rebuilt as you rest. So I'd think you'd want more of
::::: those during your rest or light activity days but not around or
::::: duing the actual rides. This site, in my opinion, does a decent
::::: job of listing the basic options for most common types of rides
:::
::::: http://www.cptips.com/sixrides.htm
:::
:::: Well, even chicken is only 15% protein so it would not hurt to
:::: have it assimilated for when you stop the ride. Our company nurse
:::: said to eat protein during work and carbohydrates to help you
:::: sleep which seems to be the reverse but maybe both are good.
:::
::: I think for a non-racing rider a certain balance of
::: simple and complex carbs, plus some protein is good.
::: I believe having some protein helps buffer the rate
::: at which the carbs are metabolized. And protein-y
::: foods satisfy, and keep the hunger pangs at bay for
::: longer periods, so one can think more clearly.
:::
::: Peanut butter & jam sandwiches on whole-grain bread
::: have all that. Protein in the peanut butter, simple
::: carbs in the jam, complex carbs in the whole-grain
::: bread. Also, PBJ sandwiches are portable, they last
::: for a while out of the fridge, and they don't
::: disintegrate in your hands while you're eating them.
:::
::: I think the main thing is to avoid eating too much
::: oily/fatty/greasy/rich stuff while exercising.
::: PBJ sandwiches - good.
::: Oyster, anchovie & double cheese pizza - not so good.
:::
::: cheers,
::: Tom
:::
::: --
::: Nothing is safe from me.
::: Above address is just a spam midden.
::: I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
::
:: Thanks Tom. I dfinitely agree on the fatty stuff. I try to avoid
:: fat in general as it slows you down regardless of whether your
:: biking or working.

Complex carbs? Come on, guys...carbs are carbs....whole grain bread is as
good a carb as simple carbs....also, PB is more fat than anything else (by
weight and by % calories).

http://www.jif.com/products/details.asp?prodID=325

I don't see why fat would slow one down in a ride...the problem is, it might
not help you climb hills very fast....


 




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