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"Mikael Seierup" wrote in message ...
"Ben Eadie" skrev i en meddelelse news:xjsTb.3718$6X2.1043@clgrps13... I am tired of this, came wanting to talk bents, I love bents, not political discussions, found petty discussions on politics and anything but recumbents. Yea thanks for contributing to the OT stuff tho. Anyone else want to leave just leave. Don't post. First we get the Ed-Sherman crap. Then 4-5 threads complaining about it. Then the 4-5 Bye bye-threads. And then you get my criticism of all of the above, including my bidding good riddance to all those who want to leave. Yea, and then wait a few weeks and the whole cycle repeats itself yet once again almost identically. It is nothing but deja vu - like that movie about the reoccurring Groundhog Day! I think we should rename this newsgroup to something like "Whether to OT or not to OT - that is the question!". We would have many thousands flocking to this new site as they would all have something to contribute - even if it is like you say above, just crap. By the way I have read most of Mikael since I have been here and he contributes more than his share of crap to this newsgroup. It is mostly on-topic crap, but still crap nonetheless. Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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Tom Sherman wrote in message ...
watsonglenn wrote: Ben Eadie wrote: I am tired of this, came wanting to talk bents, I love bents, not political discussions, found petty discussions on politics and anything but recumbents. There are dozens of threads about bents. There are more threads complaining about off-topic political threads than there are off-topic political threads. Tom Sherman - Quad Cities Laughing out loud and almost rolling on the floor! OK, so you are a very witty person after all. What you say above is perfect in substance AND form - very rare here on ARBR. It is even worthy of Oscar Wilde, one of the supreme wits of all time. Tom, the thought has occurred to me that all the kill filers sooner or later see our posts because others will be quoting our messages and THEY will not have been kill filed by the kill filers. It is a very sweet revenge on them I think. God, do I ever hate ostriches (only the human kind - the real birds are probably quite wonderful). Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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gcdoss wrote in message ...
[...] Instead of complaining about all the OT threads::: Learn to use the kill filter and the message total will go from 50 to 10 or 12 every time you sign on just by killing 2 senders on this group. You will never know what you're missing but you can be sure it's trash. I usually monitor a group for a week then kill file the ones that send more than 20 messages a week. Been doing that since the Bulletin Board days and can pretty well stay on topic of news groups intent. Every news group on the web has a couple S+++ disturbers. We called that type person the 1% in the Marine Corps. They are argumentive by nature and all the sane attempts to change them just adds fuel to their posting. When I first joined this group Ed gave me what I considered decent advice. Since then however I have seen nothing worth reading in his posts. A week ago I quit seeing any messages from him or Tom and the subject lines I get now are mostly recumbent related. It's great not having to go through 50 posts just to see one that helps. Just my 2 cents gcdoss should take out a subscription to Recumbent Cyclist News if he wants some solid information about recumbents. Instead, he wastes his time on this newsgroup sifting for pearls of wisdom about recumbents, most likely asking lots of stupid questions into the bargain and driving the rest of us to distraction. The problem that gcdoss has, along with some others on this newsgroup, is that he is just barely literate and cannot separate the wheat from the chaff (the on topic from the off topic) even though Google makes this a no brainer with its subject headings as I am sure do most newsreaders. But idiots always like to communicate with other idiots anyway, so I am delighted that he has kill filed me and that I therefore do have to put up with his befuddlement at my messages. Life is good once you are rid of morons and idiots. Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"EVSolutions" wrote in message
.. . pleasant stroll from post to post into something akin to the gauntlet of doom. People posting legitimate cycling questions & getting their chosen grammar reviewed and then being called an ass*ole for making the grammatical error Howdy Joshua and others! What you mention above is very true. Whether it is Ed posting with circular rhetoric or Tom correcting the spelling of a bike manufacturer, this place is not very attractive to the new recumbent rider. If a person can understand the basic thrust of a message, why post a grammar/spelling correction to it? That seems rather petty and childish, AND drives off others from posting. I've a local recumbent rider friend who is dyslexic and his spelling, at times, can be interesting. He'd never post here looking to get information, as he feels that his notes would be taken apart. That just rubs me the wrong way. He may be just one example and perhaps the needling that Tom engages in is not bothersome to others, but it bothers me that out there in the recumbent world, there is one rider who won't come here because of the sophomoric transgressions of one particular poster. And with Ed, there is just no telling how many people have been put off by your incessant, rambling posts. Why do you tilt at THIS windmill, Don Quixote? This note will change nothing about the way either of you post, I'm sure. A shame. -- "Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford "You can find evil anywhere you look. The question is, why are you looking?" |
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"EVSolutions" wrote
I am not a big fan of censorship and A.R.B.R. cannot be Moderated Actually, an existing newsgroup *can* go from unmoderated to moderated. It isn't very likely, but it is 'permitted' and reportedly has happened. It's probably more accurate to say ARBR *will not* become moderated. I don't have a solution to the OT and anger, not sure there is one. Ignoring off-topic postings may help, but not as much as posting *more messages on-topic*! A first-time or returning non-regular reader of a newsgroup likely doesn't know that filtering even only a few posters can greatly change [improve] the character of the newsgroup content. So post more messages like you want to see [on-topic, hopefully]! IF I had the time I'd look at doing a Moderated Version of ARBR as the only way to get this group back on track... but I lack the time to do it. You may have missed the short-lived discussion of creating a new newsgroup: rec.bicycles.recumbent.moderated. It would, as you say, require a big investment in time and energy. Even if successful, a moderated recumbent newsgroup wouldn't be on the same "track" as what we might idealistically (unrealistically) remember as ARBR from years' past. We had off-topic posts then, but it seems to me, nowhere near the current level of persistently and intentionally offensive, abusive, and sometimes vulgar posts. They say, "You are what you eat." Well, the newsgroup is what we post... Jon Meinecke |
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PHEW! Not my Speed! Came yesterday, but for a moment; I had to
glsnce over to the cardboard box! Chris J. Bent (literally) and brown truck content combined. http://www.campyonly.com/images/joebell/paint_steps/003_3s.jpg. Tom Sherman - Quad Cities |
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"Lars S. Mulford" wrote in message . ..
"EVSolutions" wrote in message .. . pleasant stroll from post to post into something akin to the gauntlet of doom. People posting legitimate cycling questions & getting their chosen grammar reviewed and then being called an ass*ole for making the grammatical error Howdy Joshua and others! What you mention above is very true. Whether it is Ed posting with circular rhetoric or Tom correcting the spelling of a bike manufacturer, this place is not very attractive to the new recumbent rider. Circular rhetoric? Yes, I think you are right. I always like to drive a point home before I leave a subject because I never trust the intelligence of a reader to get my thought otherwise. By the way, repetition (circular rhetoric) is the basis for all learning. Once over lightly never works for anyone really. If a person can understand the basic thrust of a message, why post a grammar/spelling correction to it? That seems rather petty and childish, AND drives off others from posting. I never do that sort of thing and have severely criticized others in the past for doing it. However, when others are being petty themselves, then I relish taking apart their posts and subjecting them to their own medicine. I've a local recumbent rider friend who is dyslexic and his spelling, at times, can be interesting. He'd never post here looking to get information, as he feels that his notes would be taken apart. That just rubs me the wrong way. He may be just one example and perhaps the needling that Tom engages in is not bothersome to others, but it bothers me that out there in the recumbent world, there is one rider who won't come here because of the sophomoric transgressions of one particular poster. Tom mostly does this sort of thing for humor. And then some of us act very indignant about it - and that is just humor too. Anyone who comes to this newsgroup without a sense of humor is going to be drawn and quartered. Trust me on this. And with Ed, there is just no telling how many people have been put off by your incessant, rambling posts. Why do you tilt at THIS windmill, Don Quixote? It is really only unintelligent people who are put off by a bit of rambling. If you will notice, I never ramble too much. Most of the posts here could use a bit of rambling. It would make them more interesting and enjoyable. To stay on topic and stick to the subject too severely is extremely boring - and it is a sort of rudeness in itself. Mr. Sherman does this sort of posting better than anyone I know (even when he is off topic, he is on topic for the off topic and he never rambles). I am just the opposite. But even so, I am always just trying to say something that I think might lighten someone's day and increase their humanity. This note will change nothing about the way either of you post, I'm sure. A shame. Yes, you are right about your message not changing anything, but it is not a shame, far from it. Please note, Lars, that your posts do not get many responses because they are so dull. I could teach you a few things about how to liven up your posts. But we are mostly all old men here and set in our ways. You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. The main adventure left in our lives is to die. (There, Lars, did not those last three sentences in the above paragraph lighten your day and increase your humanity? Or was that too much "rambling" to suit you?) Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Jon Meinecke" wrote in message ws.com...
"EVSolutions" wrote I am not a big fan of censorship and A.R.B.R. cannot be Moderated Actually, an existing newsgroup *can* go from unmoderated to moderated. It isn't very likely, but it is 'permitted' and reportedly has happened. It's probably more accurate to say ARBR *will not* become moderated. I don't have a solution to the OT and anger, not sure there is one. Ignoring off-topic postings may help, but not as much as posting *more messages on-topic*! A first-time or returning non-regular reader of a newsgroup likely doesn't know that filtering even only a few posters can greatly change [improve] the character of the newsgroup content. So post more messages like you want to see [on-topic, hopefully]! IF I had the time I'd look at doing a Moderated Version of ARBR as the only way to get this group back on track... but I lack the time to do it. You may have missed the short-lived discussion of creating a new newsgroup: rec.bicycles.recumbent.moderated. It would, as you say, require a big investment in time and energy. Even if successful, a moderated recumbent newsgroup wouldn't be on the same "track" as what we might idealistically (unrealistically) remember as ARBR from years' past. We had off-topic posts then, but it seems to me, nowhere near the current level of persistently and intentionally offensive, abusive, and sometimes vulgar posts. They say, "You are what you eat." Well, the newsgroup is what we post... Jon Meinecke Why is it that Mr. Meinecke can never get any responses to his posts. Is it because he is always so dull and on topic all the time? Or is it because he just has just one crazy idea after another all the time and no one, but no one, takes him seriously. Better to be a jackass like myself and at least entertain someone if you can't inform them about anything they want to be informed about. If it weren't for me taking his posts somewhat seriously, he might as well be writing to someone on the planet Mars. We had off-topic posts then, but it seems to me, nowhere near the current level of persistently and intentionally offensive, abusive, and sometimes vulgar posts. Everyone who thinks the above about me should get themselves a sense of humor. I do not put smileys all over my posts because I figure everyone here is intelligent enough to get my meanings. But there are some really serious folks in this world, like Mr. Meinecke, who are quick to take offense. I think they must be of Germanic origin as those peoples do have the reputation for being dour and serious. We Irish are not like that. We like to poke fun at seriousness because we think it is mostly quite ridiculous. Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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