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Old March 7th 07, 08:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
Paul J. Berg
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

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Old March 7th 07, 11:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
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On Mar 7, 2:08 pm, (Paul J. Berg) wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

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The needs of hipsters are gravely important. This contrasted with MHLs
is almost worthy of a Zippy panel.

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Old March 8th 07, 12:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
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Paul J. Berg wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

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Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
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Old March 8th 07, 12:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
Steven[_3_]
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On Mar 7, 5:15 pm, DougC wrote:
Paul J. Berg wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.


`


Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~


Why do you not want a brake unless you own a unicycle? Somebody's
sneaking some stuff in with it, take a better look?

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Old March 8th 07, 12:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
Steven[_3_]
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On Mar 7, 5:15 pm, DougC wrote:
Paul J. Berg wrote:
`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.


`


Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~


Consumer Public Safety Commission regulations cover goods sold in the
US but not second-hand. This gives them the authority to initiate or
suggest recalls, which are often done by the mfg. without an action
from anybody. Yes, they set the requirement for how goods may be sold
and what types of equipment are allowed, imported or "domestic" (from
any source). They are not really that exact (hazardous substances on
children's item are one thing that is recalled often) and they seem to
leave it to the supplier/mfg to correct it.

Still, need I ask if even a drug addict or even severly mentally
impaired person would want to use a brakeless bicycle?

What is the law for then? There must be something else.

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Old March 8th 07, 12:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
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"DougC" wrote in message
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Paul J. Berg wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.


Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school zone!"

-c


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Old March 8th 07, 01:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
Steven[_3_]
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On Mar 7, 5:54 pm, "gatt" wrote:
"DougC" wrote in message

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Paul J. Berg wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.


Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school zone!"

-c


A 26 inch cruiser is a one speed bike, so it is a banana seat bike in
basic form. Disconnecting the coaster is easy, but why?

Either of those will hit 20 mph going downhill. It's likely there will
be a street intersecting the road at the bottom of that hill and
little to see around on either side.

BAM!

Look Ma...no life.

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

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Old March 8th 07, 01:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
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gatt wrote:
"DougC" wrote in message
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Paul J. Berg wrote:
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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.


Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school
zone!"


You've obviously never heard The Legend of Little Billy Baka! (He did 65
mph on a trike...twice!)

Bill "got a ticket that proves it, too (save for that pesky producing it
part)" S.


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Old March 8th 07, 01:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
Don Homuth
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On 7 Mar 2007 17:07:45 -0800, "Steven"
wrote:

A 26 inch cruiser is a one speed bike, so it is a banana seat bike in
basic form. Disconnecting the coaster is easy, but why?


Because a group of folks is making it into a Freedom issue, and
requesting relief from (dread) Gubmint Regulation.

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?


To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.
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Old March 8th 07, 02:53 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,pdx.general,or.politics,alt.politics
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Bill Sornson wrote:
gatt wrote:
"DougC" wrote in message
...
Paul J. Berg wrote:
`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school
zone!"


You've obviously never heard The Legend of Little Billy Baka! (He did 65
mph on a trike...twice!)

Bill "got a ticket that proves it, too (save for that pesky producing it
part)" S.


I am getting so tired of hearing that. I coasted that hill with a car
and barely hit 25 MPH, so maybe 20 on a trike. Whatever the few die hard
idiots think, I did it at 4, or maybe at best 5 years old. Did you do
anything exciting at 4 or 5? Probably not. The small town cops knew me
well enough to know where to take me home.
And the 160-170++ on a motorcycle is real, but I learned not to sit up
at those speeds, because the wind made me pull back on the bars so hard
I had no steering.
Live life, don't rag on me for having had the nards to actually do it.
Wimps.
Bill Baka
 




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