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On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 2:45:14 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal. Pretty much for an average kid. IME it's a bit slow. Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional. One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids. How many children do you have? Cognitive ability quite closely tracks age and physical development of the brain and pretending that if you like something that will increase a child's ability to understand shows that you never grew up yourself. |
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On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal. Pretty much for an average kid. IME it's a bit slow. Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional. One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids. I agree entirely! BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them to us by memory. She was not yet three. I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably illustrations is not "readying". |
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On 10/22/2020 7:47 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal. Pretty much for an average kid. IME it's a bit slow. Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional. One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids. I agree entirely! BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them to us by memory. She was not yet three. I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably illustrations is not "readying". I hate to tell you this, Tom, but you failed to understand the discussion yet again. I know she was not reading when that incident took place. (She was also not "readying" [sic]). She was reciting what was in her books from memory because the books had been read to her so many times. Here's the point, in bite sized chunks so even you can understand it: We value reading very, very highly. We read to our kids very, very frequently - so frequently that they memorized their favorite little books. Partly because of that, this little one was _very_ highly motivated to read. Within a year after that incident, she was honestly and actively reading while still age 3. She essentially taught herself. (Damn, Tom, an actual conversation with you requires an ocean of patience just to get the concepts across!) -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:47:53 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 5:45 PM, news18 wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal. Pretty much for an average kid. IME it's a bit slow. Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional. One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids. I agree entirely! BTW, the earliest of those readers began "reading" to us during a long car trip. She was in a child seat in back with some little Beatrice Potter books. They had been read to her so often that she "read" them to us by memory. She was not yet three. I hate to tell you this Frank but reciting from memory and probably illustrations is not "readying". They are aids to learning to read. Turns a page of unknown symbols to information. Do you think reading comes from a magic pill. |
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:46:41 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 2:45:14 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:20:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/22/2020 6:39 AM, news18 wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:57:28 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote: I could read and write by the third grade. I assume that was normal. Pretty much for an average kid. IME it's a bit slow. Of the four kids I know most about, only the slowest had any difficulty at all in reading by third grade. That is, the kid read a bit slowly and didn't enjoy it much for a few years, but was fully functional. One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Congratulations. In my experience, it depends on the parents and whether the parents value reading and do stuff like reading instead of being glued to TV and other activities like reading to and with their kids. How many children do you have? Err Tommy, getting your prick into a **** doesn't prove anything about your ability to raise the product of that action. Cognitive ability quite closely tracks age and physical development of the brain and pretending that if you like something that will increase a child's ability to understand shows that you never grew up yourself. Your logic is amazing. So your kids and step kids will be supid because you're stupid. Poor *******s. Hint, the your first assumption. Generally the ability/skill ranges wobble around and none are absolutely essential for the other. It just makes it easier for progression in some areas. |
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Am 22.10.2020 um 18:42 schrieb Tom Kunich:
On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:20:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Inasmuch as children do not have the ability to think cognitively until the age of 4 to 5 one has to wonder of what use reading would be. The age when children are able to think cognitively varies individually. Children who are challenged with intellectual tasks develop cognitive abilities much earlier than children who are challenged with mostly physical tasks. As a matter of fact, children growing up now develop their cognitive abilities significantly earlier than children who grew up in the 1970's but they are also significantly behind in their physical abilities and co-ordination compared to then. |
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On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 12:44:27 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 22.10.2020 um 18:42 schrieb Tom Kunich: On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:20:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: One kid began reading about age 3, another age 4, the third age 5. Inasmuch as children do not have the ability to think cognitively until the age of 4 to 5 one has to wonder of what use reading would be. The age when children are able to think cognitively varies individually. Children who are challenged with intellectual tasks develop cognitive abilities much earlier than children who are challenged with mostly physical tasks. As a matter of fact, children growing up now develop their cognitive abilities significantly earlier than children who grew up in the 1970's but they are also significantly behind in their physical abilities and co-ordination compared to then. I agree with you to the point that it is extremely rare to have early brain growth while not that uncommon to have slower brain growth. One notes this instantly when you watch a child grow to maturity. This is a case of physical growth. |
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