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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
Not my loaner 29er, not my loaner coker, not my muni. They *ALL* ride smooth and straight with no "listing", or pulling to one side. That said, I was perplexed as to WHY I was listing HARD to the right on my brand new radial deluxe! I thought it could just be that it new and I need to "get used to it", or maybe play around with the saddle adjustment...nothing helped. Then I noticed what _must_ be the reason; The wheel is very OFF center with the frame! I tried loosening the bearing caps and held the wheel in the center while I re-tightened them. Didn't work. I tried flipping the whel around, but to no avail. Either the frame is not even, or the WHEEL was built off center, and I think it's the wheel! Is there anything *I* can do to center the wheel, because it spins true enough, but I think the AXLE is slightly high on one side causing the wheel to be off center, and causing ME to constantly "correct" in order to stay on a straight line. It's virtually UNrideable like this! An older post on the "listing" problem mentioned that if you try riding other unis and still have the same problem (which I don't) then it's *you*. If you try other unis and you DON'T list, then it's the uni! Help me if you can! Thanks +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: DSC01292.JPG | |Download: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/20613 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- MuniAddict "On Earth it would be...12 noon" (Twilight zone episode, "To serve man.") My Videos: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ttt8699 My favorite FG clip: http://tinyurl.com/28847b ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MuniAddict's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12920 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
my schwin is like this. it is a whole 1/4 inch off. But on mine the frame crooked. BUt i have sort of got used to it but sometimes it affects me. (also haveing a mackshift peg for a peddle doesn't help) -- rab2009 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rab2009's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14533 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
Terry, Try shimming the side with the wheel farthest from the frame. Take a small piece of beer, I mean, soda can and slip it on top of the bearing in the holder. This will put the wheel to the center, may take two or three layers. My first KH was shimmed this way when I got it. Also, could have been some of your paint that changed the fit. Shimming or scraping paint off the other side will have same effect. -- Munivision Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Munivision's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14619 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
Terry, try letting some air out of the tire to see if it will correct your listing problem. I find with my Coker that if my tire is on the higher pressure end that I have listing problems also. One last thing to try is turning the saddle around 180 degrees and riding it to see if you start listing to the other side. Don't ride for too long or you'll unscrew your pedals. -- One on one "That's going to end up in somebody's sig." - rob.northcott "one on one is happy, so am I!...." -CKCrowe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ One on one's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5740 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
Aw man, and that was your new uni too, wasn't it! It would be horrible to have a soda can as part of your uni, can you still send it back or have you changed it too much? -- hobo_chuck its not easy being gold! '$200 KH 29\" mountain uni!' (http://www.lost.eu/53187) get yours before it's too late!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hobo_chuck's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14113 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
One on one wrote: Terry, try letting some air out of the tire to see if it will correct your listing problem. I find with my Coker that if my tire is on the higher pressure end that I have listing problems also. No it's not the air pressure. Like I said I tried 3 other cokers, a 29er and all THREE of my munis, all with different psi's and none of them "list". It has to be that the wheel is simply off center, and BIG TIME! I'll try that shimming idea. -- MuniAddict "On Earth it would be...12 noon" (Twilight zone episode, "To serve man.") My Videos: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ttt8699 My favorite FG clip: http://tinyurl.com/28847b ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MuniAddict's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12920 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
If the frame is too long on one side, turning the axle around will still show the lean to the same side. If the wheel is built wrong, turning the axle around will show the lean to the opposite side. My KH24 came with a thick plastic shim on one side, right on top of the bearing. -- ahollow ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ahollow's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13990 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
I'm willing to bet your spokes are drilled off center on the rim, thats how mine are and my wheel looks like yours in the radial frame. I have my seat turned to the left a little to compensate haha. It makes riding on the right side of the road a pain for me though. On the left however it counteracts the crown of the road and theres smooth sailing. I got my radial used for $130 (including shipping) though so I can't really complain. -- Brian O. mscalisi wrote: We only need one 36" rim, one that doesn't suck. A properly sized KH rim (like the 29er only larger) would be awesome. 'ProjectUNI' (http://www.otherworldsociety.org/projectuni) - The Unicyclist PC Game - In Early Development. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
Check if the bearings are tight against the hub and symmetrical relative to the hub. If they are, check if the rim is centered relative to the bearings. This might be a bit tricky to do on a Coker wheel, because standard dishing tools aren't large enough to reach the rim. One way to tell would be to flip the wheel in the frame; if the error moves to the other side when you do that, the wheel is improperly dished. You can fix dish errors by tightening all the spokes on the side of the wheel away from the error (pulling the rim in the direction you want it to go). If the error stays on the same side when you flip the wheel in the frame, you've got either a bent or out-of-spec frame or bearing holders. A shim, as suggested, might get you by on that one, or you might be able to get the frame "cold-set" (frame-maker code for "bent") to be straight. -- tholub ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tholub's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/804 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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"listing" I found out why! (in my case anyway)
tholub wrote: Check if the bearings are tight against the hub and symmetrical relative to the hub. If they are, check if the rim is centered relative to the bearings. This might be a bit tricky to do on a Coker wheel, because standard dishing tools aren't large enough to reach the rim. One way to tell would be to flip the wheel in the frame; if the error moves to the other side when you do that, the wheel is improperly dished. You can fix dish errors by tightening all the spokes on the side of the wheel away from the error (pulling the rim in the direction you want it to go). If the error stays on the same side when you flip the wheel in the frame, you've got either a bent or out-of-spec frame or bearing holders. A shim, as suggested, might get you by on that one, or you might be able to get the frame "cold-set" (frame-maker code for "bent") to be straight. I tried Jim's shim idea; it took FOUR pepsi alum strips to get it centered, or at least very close to centered. The strips are quite thin, so maybe 4 isn't that much. It could very well be the frame, because Amy said the radial frame has to be "bent" out to accomodate the wide hub! -- MuniAddict "On Earth it would be...12 noon" (Twilight zone episode, "To serve man.") My Videos: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ttt8699 My favorite FG clip: http://tinyurl.com/28847b ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MuniAddict's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12920 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61767 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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