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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at
most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. Bret Cahill |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
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Phil W Lee wrote: Bret Cahill considered Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:35:20 -0800 (PST) the perfect time to write: For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. Bret Cahill But there are additional costs throughout the supply chain, not just in production. It's much easier to sell a bike if you have examples on display, and available for test ride. That is much easier (less expensive) to arrange on an item that you will sell several a week of, than something that an individual dealer will shift a few of per year (or maybe none, for some models - while it's necessary to offer a good range, you won't necessarily sell one of everything in it each year). And the majority of those sales will need far more attention (time is money), due to the variability between different models and the lack of experience which most customers will have of them. All this is only solvable with an increase in sales. indeed which is why i suspect they will remain a small market. |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A ConventionalMachine
On 16/01/2012 17:35, Bret Cahill wrote:
For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. But the marketing guys realise that cyclists are inherently gullible & price things accordingly. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than AConventional Machine
On Jan 17, 12:17*am, Roger Merriman wrote:
In article , *Phil W Lee wrote: Bret Cahill considered Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:35:20 -0800 (PST) the perfect time to write: For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. Bret Cahill But there are additional costs throughout the supply chain, not just in production. It's much easier to sell a bike if you have examples on display, and available for test ride. That is much easier (less expensive) to arrange on an item that you will sell several a week of, than something that an individual dealer will shift a few of per year (or maybe none, for some models - while it's necessary to offer a good range, you won't necessarily sell one of everything in it each year). And the majority of those sales will need far more attention (time is money), due to the variability between different models and the lack of experience which most customers will have of them. All this is only solvable with an increase in sales. indeed which is why i suspect they will remain a small market.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would never buy one even though I could afford it. They are too low and not visible enough, plus you would breathe in a load of crap that cars chuck out. -- Simon Mason |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:41:50 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote: snip I would never buy one even though I could afford it. I wonder why so many of the psycholists here have to tell us how much they have spent on this thing or that thing. I think it must be some sort of insecurity. |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:35:20 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
wrote: For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. My recumbent cost around 2.5x an equivalently specified stick-bike. Guy -- Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed to be worth at least what you paid for them. |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
"Phil W Lee" wrote in message ... But there are additional costs throughout the supply chain, not just in production. It's much easier to sell a bike if you have examples on display, and available for test ride. That is much easier (less expensive) to arrange on an item that you will sell several a week of, than something that an individual dealer will shift a few of per year (or maybe none, for some models - while it's necessary to offer a good range, you won't necessarily sell one of everything in it each year). Isn't another problem that everyone knows how to ride a conventional bike, but a 'bent will need more practice which you can't really do in a showroom? -- Simon Mason |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than A Conventional Machine
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, Simon Mason wrote: On Jan 17, 12:17*am, Roger Merriman wrote: In article , *Phil W Lee wrote: Bret Cahill considered Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:35:20 -0800 (PST) the perfect time to write: For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. Bret Cahill But there are additional costs throughout the supply chain, not just in production. It's much easier to sell a bike if you have examples on display, and available for test ride. That is much easier (less expensive) to arrange on an item that you will sell several a week of, than something that an individual dealer will shift a few of per year (or maybe none, for some models - while it's necessary to offer a good range, you won't necessarily sell one of everything in it each year). And the majority of those sales will need far more attention (time is money), due to the variability between different models and the lack of experience which most customers will have of them. All this is only solvable with an increase in sales. indeed which is why i suspect they will remain a small market.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would never buy one even though I could afford it. They are too low and not visible enough, plus you would breathe in a load of crap that cars chuck out. -- Simon Mason I have used a double one for cycling around Bushy Park with lads with learning difficulties. not sure I like the postion. But I don't any are great commute bikes, more your sunday special any how. though some folks clearly do but they tend to have open fast roads to let the bike play to it's strenghts. Roger |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than AConventional Machine
For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at
most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. My recumbent cost around 2.5x an equivalently specified stick-bike. Bicycles are one of the all time most popular consumer items so even a small sub market is well into volume production. Guy -- Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed to be worth at least what you paid for them. |
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Why A Recumbent Costs An Order of Magnitude More Than AConventional Machine
For the same craftsmanship and components a recumbent should cost at
most 2X - 3X more than a conventional bicycle. Volume production brings down the price a lot in the beginning but diminishing returns soon kicks in. Bret Cahill But there are additional costs throughout the supply chain, not just in production. It's much easier to sell a bike if you have examples on display, and available for test ride. That is much easier (less expensive) to arrange on an item that you will sell several a week of, than something that an individual dealer will shift a few of per year (or maybe none, for some models - while it's necessary to offer a good range, you won't necessarily sell one of everything in it each year). And the majority of those sales will need far more attention (time is money), due to the variability between different models and the lack of experience which most customers will have of them. All this is only solvable with an increase in sales. indeed which is why i suspect they will remain a small market.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would never buy one even though I could afford it. They are too low and not visible enough, plus you would breathe in a load of crap that cars chuck out. They could be designed so the rider is off the ground but then they would be hard to mount and the aerodynamic advantage would largely disappear. Bret Cahill |
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