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Cycling Norwich to Wales
Simon Brooke wrote on 12/06/2007 11:31 +0100:
Start with a good map that covers the whole journey at small scale - I'm a fan of Michelin maps for this. Get a rough idea of your route. Then plan in detail using larger scale maps as needed. For long rides like that I buy last year's large scale road maps that you can usually find going cheap and then cut out strips of which cover the route and a bit each side. Makes it very easy to navigate your way at a decent scale with minimal weight to carry. -- Tony "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell |
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"Tony Raven" wrote in message
news Simon Brooke wrote on 12/06/2007 11:31 +0100: Start with a good map that covers the whole journey at small scale - I'm a fan of Michelin maps for this. Get a rough idea of your route. Then plan in detail using larger scale maps as needed. For long rides like that I buy last year's large scale road maps that you can usually find going cheap and then cut out strips of which cover the route and a bit each side. Makes it very easy to navigate your way at a decent scale with minimal weight to carry. Don't even need to be last year's these days - got one for 2 quid from Morrisons a few weeks ago. I'd recommend the ones with the AA mapping though - the clearest one I've seen. cheers, clive |
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"TerryJ" wrote in message oups.com... I think he nipped down to the library to study the OS maps but then just photocopied a road atlas with a proposed route highlighted linking pre-booked B&Bs. It was fine, I think, apart from the canals not being Did he/you check out the cyclabilty of the canals before going? How? I've never found canals particularly cycle friendly. |
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Alan Holmes wrote on 14/06/2007 17:49:
"TerryJ" wrote in message oups.com... I think he nipped down to the library to study the OS maps but then just photocopied a road atlas with a proposed route highlighted linking pre-booked B&Bs. It was fine, I think, apart from the canals not being Did he/you check out the cyclabilty of the canals before going? How? I've never found canals particularly cycle friendly. For a recreational cyclist like me, they're fine. The ones round Manchester here aren't bad - the towpaths on the Ashton, Rochdale, Peak Forest and Huddersfield canals are quite good in this region and the Bridgewater one isn't bad either. It's the ones in teh middle of the countryside that seem to me to be poorly surfaced/maintained and more grass/mud than gravel/track. The thing that bugs me about canal towpaths is the relative frequency of barriers stopping motorcyclists using them, because it means you have to slow down (or sometimes dismount) every few minutes. Peter -- http://www.scandrett.net/lx/ http://www.scandrett.net/bike/ |
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Peter Scandrett of www.scandrett.net wrote:
For a recreational cyclist like me, they're fine. The ones round Manchester here aren't bad - the towpaths on the Ashton, Rochdale, Peak Forest and Huddersfield canals are quite good in this region and the Bridgewater one isn't bad either. The Bridgewater is a privately owned canal, not part of British Waterways. Cycling on the towpaths is banned on a lot of it (and I suspect on the rest it just means the signs are missing). The bit I used to use sometimes, Sale to Altrincham and on towards Dunham, has had a lot more signs put up in the last couple of years, so it's no longer possible to claim ignorance. -- Steph Peters Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm |
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Steph Peters wrote on 19/06/2007 21:16:
Peter Scandrett of www.scandrett.net wrote: For a recreational cyclist like me, they're fine. The ones round Manchester here aren't bad - the towpaths on the Ashton, Rochdale, Peak Forest and Huddersfield canals are quite good in this region and the Bridgewater one isn't bad either. The Bridgewater is a privately owned canal, not part of British Waterways. I knew it was owned by the Manchester Ship Canal Company, but... Cycling on the towpaths is banned on a lot of it (and I suspect on the rest it just means the signs are missing). ....I thought that ban had been lifted. A quick google later and I'm wrong but this is what I'd had at the back of my mind: http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/cycling.html http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/bww.html "The Bridgewater Way is a regeneration project that will create a 65km/39 mile leisure route for walkers and cyclists along the historic Bridgewater Canal." It's obviously not in force yet but at least they're developing it. There's no dates on those pages but work is progressing this year, it seems. Do you know why the Manchester Ship Canal Company aren't keen on bikes? Regards Peter -- http://www.scandrett.net/lx/ http://www.scandrett.net/bike/ |
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Peter Scandrett of www.scandrett.net wrote:
Steph Peters wrote on 19/06/2007 21:16: The Bridgewater is a privately owned canal, not part of British Waterways. I knew it was owned by the Manchester Ship Canal Company, but... Cycling on the towpaths is banned on a lot of it (and I suspect on the rest it just means the signs are missing). ...I thought that ban had been lifted. A quick google later and I'm wrong but this is what I'd had at the back of my mind: http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/cycling.html http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/bww.html "The Bridgewater Way is a regeneration project that will create a 65km/39 mile leisure route for walkers and cyclists along the historic Bridgewater Canal." It's obviously not in force yet but at least they're developing it. There's no dates on those pages but work is progressing this year, it seems. Do you know why the Manchester Ship Canal Company aren't keen on bikes? I hadn't heard about the new project - will be good news for me when it's done. Out to Dunham along the canal and back along the TransPennine Bridleway makes a good ride with very little roads so suitable for kids who are too young for roads (provided they can be trusted not to fall in). I have no idea why the Manchester Ship Canal Company aren't keen on bikes. The walkers along the towpath (in the bits without no cycling signs) vary a lot from friendly to downright hostile and obstructive in a few cases. -- Steph Peters Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm |
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Steph Peters wrote:
Peter Scandrett of www.scandrett.net wrote: Steph Peters wrote on 19/06/2007 21:16: The Bridgewater is a privately owned canal, not part of British Waterways. I knew it was owned by the Manchester Ship Canal Company, but... Cycling on the towpaths is banned on a lot of it (and I suspect on the rest it just means the signs are missing). ...I thought that ban had been lifted. A quick google later and I'm wrong but this is what I'd had at the back of my mind: http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/cycling.html http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/bww.html "The Bridgewater Way is a regeneration project that will create a 65km/39 mile leisure route for walkers and cyclists along the historic Bridgewater Canal." It's obviously not in force yet but at least they're developing it. There's no dates on those pages but work is progressing this year, it seems. Do you know why the Manchester Ship Canal Company aren't keen on bikes? I hadn't heard about the new project - will be good news for me when it's done. Out to Dunham along the canal and back along the TransPennine Bridleway makes a good ride with very little roads so suitable for kids who are too young for roads (provided they can be trusted not to fall in). I have no idea why the Manchester Ship Canal Company aren't keen on bikes. The walkers along the towpath (in the bits without no cycling signs) vary a lot from friendly to downright hostile and obstructive in a few cases. -- Steph Peters Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm last i looked the breacon to newport canal the tow path is out of bounds to bikes, but then it's a rather narrow path for a lot of it, and the bridges rather low, so the possbility of some day triper loosing balance and riding into the canal is there. but then there are plenty of other routes to take by bike in that area if you have mountain/hybrid bike. a road bike would be hard going as it is lumpy and muddy in places. roger |
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Bridgewater canal (Was: Cycling Norwich to Wales)
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Steph Peters wrote on 20/06/2007 23:54: http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/cycling.html http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/bww.html I hadn't heard about the new project - will be good news for me when it's done. Out to Dunham along the canal and back along the TransPennine Bridleway makes a good ride with very little roads so suitable for kids who are too young for roads (provided they can be trusted not to fall in). I emailed the address given on the pages above when the thread was posted. I got this reply today, which is interesting... "I can confirm that cycling is not permitted on the towpath of the Bridgewater Canal because it is not maintained to a standard suitable for cycling. However, as we obtain funding to improve the towpath under the scheme known as Bridgewater Way cycling on those improved sections will subject to a local risk assessment be available for cycling. We are currently discussing a scheme with Sustrans known as Trafford connect2. This scheme if Sustrans are successful in a Living Landmarks bid will make funding available to complete the section between Stretford and Sale Waterside Council offices. Our website will be updated shortly to keep you informed of progress." Which is helpful in clarifying the situation, anyway, and more promising than an outright ban. Regards Peter -- http://www.scandrett.net/lx/ http://www.scandrett.net/bike/ |
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Bridgewater canal (Was: Cycling Norwich to Wales)
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:07:08 +0100, Peter Scandrett
wrote: "I can confirm that cycling is not permitted on the towpath of the Bridgewater Canal because it is not maintained to a standard suitable for cycling. However, as we obtain funding to improve the towpath under the scheme known as Bridgewater Way cycling on those improved sections will subject to a local risk assessment be available for cycling. Interesting. I cycle on that loop (Bridgewater + Transpennine) quite a bit if I need a quick break from work at home. Never occurred to me that it might be prohibited. |
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