Ear splitting horn for dog protection?

On Apr 7, 11:16*am, wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:46*am, " wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:42*am, datakoll wrote:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...IE-SearchBox&r...

moist dog brain-sensory nuerons are smell/nose related not ear related

"touch" would have to be up there, as well.

This also figures into "training", as in "teaching dogs to keep their
distance from cyclists". *--D-y

perhaps a silent dog whistle might work better; you could ride with it
in "dog areas" in your mouth and give a quick blow when you see a dog
that might run into your way; a quick burst might be enough to get the
dogs attention, to stop and look.

I've never seen a dog, as far as I can recall, that wasn't
_intentionally_ "running into my way". Yesterday, a pop on the nose
with my front wheel (me off bike) was enough to deter a pit bull
puppy. There were two of them. A little young yet for the circling,
two-pronged attack, but I didn't know that for sure and thats' one
reason I dismounted. --D-y

In article ,
Jim Martin wrote:

Hello All:

There is a road in my area that is closed to traffic for the spring.
Perfect for riding except that it is also popular among people who walk
their dogs. Most of the people let their dogs off the leash and it can
be pretty dangerous. Many of the dogs seem to want to run right into my
front wheel. Of course the owners are dozens of yards away and do
nothing about. Brings to mind a joke: Question: How does a dog owner
greet a cyclist? Ans: Oh, sorry!

So, I am imagining that there must a horn I can buy that would send
these dogs running for cover. Something with a CO2 cartridge for power.
Mounted on my bars it could clear a safe path through the dogs.

Can anyone point me a source for such a horn and handlebar mount?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=341338

You will have to fashion or otherwise locate a mount.
How about this?

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/LS701Z00-Niterider+Universal+Handlebar+Mount.aspx

--
Michael Press

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Jim Martin wrote:

Hello All:

There is a road in my area that is closed to traffic for the spring.
Perfect for riding except that it is also popular among people who walk
their dogs. Most of the people let their dogs off the leash and it can
be pretty dangerous. Many of the dogs seem to want to run right into my
front wheel. Of course the owners are dozens of yards away and do
nothing about. Brings to mind a joke: Question: How does a dog owner
greet a cyclist? Ans: Oh, sorry!

So, I am imagining that there must a horn I can buy that would send
these dogs running for cover. Something with a CO2 cartridge for power.
Mounted on my bars it could clear a safe path through the dogs.

Can anyone point me a source for such a horn and handlebar mount?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=341338

You will have to fashion or otherwise locate a mount.
How about this?

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/LS701Z00-Niterider+Universal+Handlebar+Mount.aspx

The Cycloblock will hold a C size flashlight, so it might be okay for
the mini air horn, but not the large one.

"http://batteryjunction.com/twofish-cycloblocks.html".

wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:46 am, " wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:42 am, datakoll wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...IE-SearchBox&r...
moist dog brain-sensory nuerons are smell/nose related not ear related
"touch" would have to be up there, as well.
This also figures into "training", as in "teaching dogs to keep their
distance from cyclists". --D-y
perhaps a silent dog whistle might work better; you could ride with it
in "dog areas" in your mouth and give a quick blow when you see a dog
that might run into your way; a quick burst might be enough to get the
dogs attention, to stop and look.

I've never seen a dog, as far as I can recall, that wasn't
_intentionally_ "running into my way". Yesterday, a pop on the nose
with my front wheel (me off bike) was enough to deter a pit bull
puppy. There were two of them. A little young yet for the circling,
two-pronged attack, but I didn't know that for sure and thats' one
reason I dismounted. --D-y

When an adult dog starts to circle behind you while growling, assume it
WILL bite if given the chance. Pepper spray is good, pepper spray and a
steel baton are better, and both the former and a gun are the best.

I do not feel sorry for the dog owner for what may happen. Dogs that
aggressive should NEVER be lets off the leash in public spaces.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:55:15 GMT, _
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:02:27 -0600, Jim Martin wrote:

Hello All:

There is a road in my area that is closed to traffic for the spring.
Perfect for riding except that it is also popular among people who walk
their dogs. Most of the people let their dogs off the leash and it can
be pretty dangerous. Many of the dogs seem to want to run right into my
front wheel. Of course the owners are dozens of yards away and do
nothing about. Brings to mind a joke: Question: How does a dog owner
greet a cyclist? Ans: Oh, sorry!

So, I am imagining that there must a horn I can buy that would send
these dogs running for cover. Something with a CO2 cartridge for power.
Mounted on my bars it could clear a safe path through the dogs.

Can anyone point me a source for such a horn and handlebar mount?

Thanks,

Jim

Air Zound

Trust me.


I may get one for the cagers!

Ben

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:02:27 -0600, Jim Martin wrote:

Hello All:

There is a road in my area that is closed to traffic for the spring.
Perfect for riding except that it is also popular among people who walk
their dogs. Most of the people let their dogs off the leash and it can
be pretty dangerous. Many of the dogs seem to want to run right into my
front wheel. Of course the owners are dozens of yards away and do
nothing about. Brings to mind a joke: Question: How does a dog owner
greet a cyclist? Ans: Oh, sorry!

So, I am imagining that there must a horn I can buy that would send
these dogs running for cover. Something with a CO2 cartridge for power.
Mounted on my bars it could clear a safe path through the dogs.

Can anyone point me a source for such a horn and handlebar mount?

Thanks,

Jim

Unfortunately, what may cause one dog to run for cover might provoke an attack
by another. And of course, it is the thoughtless and sometimes down right
inconsiderate owners' fault, not the dogs. You might want to try complaining to
the appropriate authorities about this, pointing out the danger, especially to
"the children" (think of the children).


Ben

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:07:38 -0500, Tom Sherman
wrote:

wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:16 am, wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:46 am, " wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:42 am, datakoll wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...IE-SearchBox&r...
moist dog brain-sensory nuerons are smell/nose related not ear related
"touch" would have to be up there, as well.
This also figures into "training", as in "teaching dogs to keep their
distance from cyclists". --D-y
perhaps a silent dog whistle might work better; you could ride with it
in "dog areas" in your mouth and give a quick blow when you see a dog
that might run into your way; a quick burst might be enough to get the
dogs attention, to stop and look.

I've never seen a dog, as far as I can recall, that wasn't
_intentionally_ "running into my way". Yesterday, a pop on the nose
with my front wheel (me off bike) was enough to deter a pit bull
puppy. There were two of them. A little young yet for the circling,
two-pronged attack, but I didn't know that for sure and thats' one
reason I dismounted. --D-y

When an adult dog starts to circle behind you while growling, assume it
WILL bite if given the chance. Pepper spray is good, pepper spray and a
steel baton are better, and both the former and a gun are the best.

I do not feel sorry for the dog owner for what may happen. Dogs that
aggressive should NEVER be lets off the leash in public spaces.

When I was doing some online research about some behavioral problems my dog has
I read one posting from a woman who was trying to find a way to prevent her dog
from biting people. Apparently, this moron's dog had already nipped four people
when off leash in various parks. She was just lucky that no one had ever called
the authorities on her.

Ben

Unfortunately, what may cause one dog to run for cover might provoke an
attack
by another. And of course, it is the thoughtless and sometimes down
right
inconsiderate owners' fault, not the dogs. You might want to try
complaining to
the appropriate authorities about this, pointing out the danger,
especially to
"the children" (think of the children).


Ben

I totally reject the argument that it's not the dog's fault. That dog is
making a decision to attack and to bite. It's his brain and his teeth, after
all. Sure, the owner is an idiot, but when I see this sort of argument, the
next line is always "don't hurt the poor doggie!" or "don't make the poor
puppy suffer from the actions of a thoughtless owner."

No. It's the dog who bites and that's the one from whom I need protection.

Pat in TX

On Apr 8, 10:51 am, "Pat" wrote:

I totally reject the argument that it's not the dog's fault. That dog is
making a decision to attack and to bite. It's his brain and his teeth, after
all. Sure, the owner is an idiot, but when I see this sort of argument, the
next line is always "don't hurt the poor doggie!" or "don't make the poor
puppy suffer from the actions of a thoughtless owner."

No. It's the dog who bites and that's the one from whom I need protection.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean you can't punish the owner. I've been
in dog parks where there's always some idiot who refuses to control
his overly aggressive dog. I like to stand next to the 'relaxed'
owner and say that I'd like to just punch in someone's teeth that
can't control their dog. I've never punched a person in my life,
except my brother when we were kids, but they don't know that, and I
do my best to look like a crazy.

R

still just me wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT), datakoll
wrote:

moist dog brain-sensory nuerons are smell/nose related not ear related

So try skipping the shower.

My dog freaks out at the sound of the vacuum cleaner... she'd probably
jump out of her skin if someone blew one of those air horns at her... of
course she's never off leash, only chases squirrels and cats; bike
riders and joggers are only of interest if they stop to pet her.