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Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:30:06 +0100, Alexis
wrote: "Reported injuries from collisions between pedestrians and cyclists are low. A study for the DfT in 1993 found that there were "no real factors to justify excluding cyclists from pedestrianised areas", and there must at least be some parallels with shared use paths." The key is the phrase "reported injury". Most incidents of cyclists striking pedestrians on footpaths and pedestrian areas go unreported and unrecorded even when the consequences are serious. |
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Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (Mrcheerful) wrote: Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday with his family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the footpath running beneath Reading Bridge. 1) It's not a footpath, it's a bridleway along the edge of the thames 2) What was a five year old doing there alone, unsupervised by an adult. 3) As it's a bridleway, there is no need for an adjacent cycle path, and there isn't one. So it is OK to mow down unaccompanied children ? In any case it would appear that the crash happened on the bridge, where the pavement has a cycle path. And yet you quoted "Oscar Sowden was walking home from Caversham Festival last Sunday with his family when the cyclist ploughed into him at speed on the footpath running beneath Reading Bridge." So "on the bridge" or "beneath the bridge"? I think that you would prefer "beneath the bridge" as a troll. I wonder if it was a class-related attack? I mean, Oscar and Sebastian! Emma looks rather cute, but her slightly pained look would tend to deflate me a bit, I fear. |
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Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:05:34 PM UTC+1, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:30:06 +0100, Alexis wrote: "Reported injuries from collisions between pedestrians and cyclists are low. A study for the DfT in 1993 found that there were "no real factors to justify excluding cyclists from pedestrianised areas", and there must at least be some parallels with shared use paths." The key is the phrase "reported injury". Most incidents of cyclists striking pedestrians on footpaths and pedestrian areas go unreported and unrecorded even when the consequences are serious. Ah, that's the spirit! Britain can take it! (If it's not screwed down). -------------------------------------- "One wheel on my wagon, And I’m still rolling along Them Cherokees after me I’m all in flames, at the reins But I’m singing a happy song I’m singing a higgity, haggity hoggety, high Pioneers, they never say die Right around that turn there’s a hidden cave And we can watch those Cherokees Go galloping by SPOKEN: “George? Should I get the bag of beads and trinkets?” “Woman, I know what I’m doing!” No wheels on my wagon, So I’m not rolling along The Cherokees captured me They look mad, things look bad But I’m singing a happy song SPOKEN: “C’mon all you Cherokees sing along with me!” Higgity, haggity hoggety, high Pioneers, they never say die…" |
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On Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:05:34 PM UTC+1, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:30:06 +0100, Alexis wrote: "Reported injuries from collisions between pedestrians and cyclists are low. A study for the DfT in 1993 found that there were "no real factors to justify excluding cyclists from pedestrianised areas", and there must at least be some parallels with shared use paths." The key is the phrase "reported injury". Most incidents of cyclists striking pedestrians on footpaths and pedestrian areas go unreported and unrecorded even when the consequences are serious. Are you suggesting that it is just pedestrian/cyclist collisions that cause unreported injuries? |
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Paul Cummins wrote:
In article , (Mrcheerful) wrote: In any case it would appear that the crash happened on the bridge, where the pavement has a cycle path. Reading Bridge doesn't. Caversham Bridge does. And the report is clear that they were on the route UNDER the bridge. and that a cycle path was adjacent, one is wrong. |
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:52:36 +0100, Judith wrote:
you really are stupid aren't you. Why do people insult others? It is always someone else’s fault. They never see themselves as the problem or the need to take a look at themselves. An immature, angry person can lash out at even the simplest questions. Instead of answering the question they lash out insults after insults. They can almost be ‘talented’ in changing the subject or the direction of the conversation. |
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Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:44:31 +0100, Judith wrote:
Porky Chapman Still pining for him my love-lorn mistress? I am told that Farmer Brown has a horse to give away to a "good" home. |
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Child mown down by hi-speed pavement cyclist
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 09:37:07 -0700 (PDT), Squashme
wrote: On Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:05:34 PM UTC+1, Peter Parry wrote: The key is the phrase "reported injury". Most incidents of cyclists striking pedestrians on footpaths and pedestrian areas go unreported and unrecorded even when the consequences are serious. Are you suggesting that it is just pedestrian/cyclist collisions that cause unreported injuries? Of course not, but the gross under reporting of cyclist injuries, both self inflicted and involving others is well recognised and supported by evidence such as the Scottish A&E admission studies. Whilst motorists have both a duty in law and (for some at least) an interest in reporting accidents no such imperative affects cyclists. It is in their interest to ride away from such events. Few are covered by insurance and even when they are it is often only allied with house contents cover which won't pay out without the claimant paying to get a court judgment allocating legal responsibility. The net result is that most cycling related accidents appear in no official record. Cyclist propaganda groups love the Stats 19 KSI figures which show cycling in an artificially rosy hue but run screaming from any attempt at measuring real accident rates. I am aware of one person killed by a cyclist which led to no recording of the incident. I also know of a number of serious cycling related accidents which appear neither in Stats 19 or any other record. These mostly related to the most common cause of cyclist injuries - falling off their bike with no external assistance - or cyclist/pedestrian incidents where the cyclists concerned have simply ridden off. Someone living nearby recently broke his arm in several places in a cycling accident. It appears in no traffic record. He was riding back from a pub (the reason he cycles is because he lost his licence for drink driving) and lost control going down a hill. A passer by found him on the pavement and an ambulance collected him but there was no police attendance and hence no recording of the incident. Two others sustained serious injuries falling off unaided while riding on icy roads. One fractured his hip, the other sustained brain injuries which have left him permanently disabled, neither appear in any statistics as there was no police involvement. They simply fell off by themselves. A elderly person kicked into the bushes by the local peleton out for a canal towpath race required hospital treatment but no official record of the incident was made. Cycling accident statistics are works of fiction. On the other group some months ago an informal survey of "when was your last accident" produced an long list of accidents and injuries (mostly self inflicted) and no one who had had none. This might explain the disparity between the common belief that cyclists, especially children, are merely organ donors on wheels and the propaganda groups claiming cycling is safer than any other method of transport. |
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:55:37 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:44:31 +0100, Judith wrote: Porky Chapman Still pining for him my love-lorn mistress? I am told that Farmer Brown has a horse to give away to a "good" home. If Mr Brown has a horse, he can't be a farmer - I think. |
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