Eddy Merckx Elite.

Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.

WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:20:12 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just
mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich
-- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share
bikes.
-- Jay Beattie.

Chuckle. Ask Pakistan what they think of their bargain Chinese JF-17
multi-role fighter. While it's probably not useless, Pakistan
certainly did not get what it had expected.

Buying Cheap Fighters from China, Pakistan Realized the Truth about
JF-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjtUDlJBoAg (5:59)

I really like the hardware store hinges used on the canopy:
https://youtu.be/GjtUDlJBoAg?t=284

More of the same:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jf-17

Hopefully, your bottom bracket will be better built.
Ummm... hopefully, you remembered to bribe the QC inspectors.


--
Jeff Liebermann
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.

Tom, I am going to have to agree with Jay on this one. For the last 20 plus years now I have been using real cheap and SUPER reliable Shimano or Campagnolo sealed bearing cartridge bottom brackets with square tapers in almost all my frames. The carbon Di2 bike does have those new fangled external cups but its a Dura Ace bottom bracket. Reliable. Why F around with ordering Chinese bottom brackets. Just go on Amazon and get one shipped to you for free. Your Merckx Elite frame is just a regular aluminum bike. A normal bottom bracket and crank would be perfect in it.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:15:59 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
Tom, I am going to have to agree with Jay on this one. For the last 20 plus years now I have been using real cheap and SUPER reliable Shimano or Campagnolo sealed bearing cartridge bottom brackets with square tapers in almost all my frames. The carbon Di2 bike does have those new fangled external cups but its a Dura Ace bottom bracket. Reliable. Why F around with ordering Chinese bottom brackets. Just go on Amazon and get one shipped to you for free. Your Merckx Elite frame is just a regular aluminum bike. A normal bottom bracket and crank would be perfect in it.

Or buy (for me) local -- yikes, 40 clams for the Dura Ace in Italian thread.. https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...bracket?sg=500 Is it really worth almost two Ultegras?

I understand the Chinese buying craze -- its like going to Harbor Junk and shopping. Damn! A bench grinder for a dollar! I'll get one [cord falls off in car on way home]. There is all sorts of stuff on AliExpress that looks awesome -- underscore "looks."

Admittedly, a lot of American name-brand stuff is just Chinese junk, but one hopes the name-brand guys are doing a little more QC. And if not, at least there is someone local to sue.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 3:20:14 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
I think you misunderstand Jay. The Shimano crank is going in the BB386 which is a weird standard. The Eddy is using a 30 mm shaft FSA BB. I would have thought that since Italian threads suck big time that Eddy would have changed to English threading by the time he was building super-light aluminum frames so I had purchased English threaded cups. I should have looked it up but in this day and age even my Colnago has English threads.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 9:42:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:15:59 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike.. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
Tom, I am going to have to agree with Jay on this one. For the last 20 plus years now I have been using real cheap and SUPER reliable Shimano or Campagnolo sealed bearing cartridge bottom brackets with square tapers in almost all my frames. The carbon Di2 bike does have those new fangled external cups but its a Dura Ace bottom bracket. Reliable. Why F around with ordering Chinese bottom brackets. Just go on Amazon and get one shipped to you for free. Your Merckx Elite frame is just a regular aluminum bike. A normal bottom bracket and crank would be perfect in it.
Or buy (for me) local -- yikes, 40 clams for the Dura Ace in Italian thread. https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...bracket?sg=500 Is it really worth almost two Ultegras?

I understand the Chinese buying craze -- its like going to Harbor Junk and shopping. Damn! A bench grinder for a dollar! I'll get one [cord falls off in car on way home]. There is all sorts of stuff on AliExpress that looks awesome -- underscore "looks."

Admittedly, a lot of American name-brand stuff is just Chinese junk, but one hopes the name-brand guys are doing a little more QC. And if not, at least there is someone local to sue.

I paid $20 for a Chinese ultrasonic cleaner. I run the autozone super soap in it and allow it to come up to temperature and 5 minutes in the makes the worst wax embedded cassette look like new. Maybe I should have bought an American made identical (because they are made in the same Chinese company) part for $200?

These new light cassettes that are riveted onto an aluminum carrier cannot be thoroughly cleaned any other way.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:21:40 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 3:20:14 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
I think you misunderstand Jay. The Shimano crank is going in the BB386 which is a weird standard. The Eddy is using a 30 mm shaft FSA BB. I would have thought that since Italian threads suck big time that Eddy would have changed to English threading by the time he was building super-light aluminum frames so I had purchased English threaded cups. I should have looked it up but in this day and age even my Colnago has English threads.

By the way, I decided to sell the frameset of the Look. This is a terrific bike and weighed in at 16 lbs. with the heavy carbon wheels on it. But it was XL and instead of a 60 which that once was - it is a 58. One of the problems with English bottom brackets is that on the power side it really tightens the BB so tightly I had to use a deadblow hammer to loosen it. So if you use Italian threads it loosens itself and if you use English it tightens itself. Perhaps that is why Eddy kept Italian threads. You can always use thread lock on the power side and still easily loosen it.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 10:21:40 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 3:20:14 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:47:05 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 9:54:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, it is coming together more slowly than I would like but coming together. All it needs now is the bottom bracket cups, the cabling, the chain, pedals and the handlebar tape. This should put the weight at about 18 lb.s That will make it lighter than the Colnago and a half lb heavier than the Treks. The fore and aft measurements are going to be identical to the Colnago. But with a longer top tube I will be more centered over the bike. It has Michelin Pro4 Service Corsa tires on it so it will have traction. I only got one flat on these tires before and that was because I was too tired to look at the road properly and ran over a broken bottle.

As for the $100,000 that turned out to be a book keeping error, but I will be getting a check for enough to buy a new Felt road bike to set up with an 11 speed with hydraulic disks. I have a lot of the sub-components already. If I can't get used to the disks the bike will be very easy to pass off.
Well the same thing is holding up both the Merckx and the Felt - the bottom brackets which were ordered from the same Chinese company and haven't cleared Chinese customs yet. After they do they are usually pretty fast getting here. But the red tape there must work on the "he who is willing to bribe the most gets the service" And bottom brackets cost so little that no one is going to bribe anyone to get them through. But it was only a week and a half from buying a $400 set of Chinese wheels to them getting here.
WTF are you buying BBs from Chinese companies? For the Merckx, you can get a Shimano Italian BB from Performance for $21. https://www.performancebike.com/shim...rs500i/p498393 Or probably from a decent LBS, which you do have in the Bay Area. What is your fixation on cheap Chinese crap? Why don't you just mail the PRC a check for the next aircraft carrier, the CNS Kunich -- made entirely out of cheap Chinese CF aero wheels and bike-share bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
I think you misunderstand Jay. The Shimano crank is going in the BB386 which is a weird standard. The Eddy is using a 30 mm shaft FSA BB. I would have thought that since Italian threads suck big time that Eddy would have changed to English threading by the time he was building super-light aluminum frames so I had purchased English threaded cups. I should have looked it up but in this day and age even my Colnago has English threads.

What? A 30mm shaft standard BB30 crank will be too short for the Merckx with outboard bearings. The only 30mm shaft crank wide enough is a a BB386 -- and if you have a BB386 crank, just put it in the Felt. Put the Shimano in the Merckx with a $22 Shimano outboard bearing. Why are you making this so hard?

-- Jay Beattie.