The idiocy of Ed Dolan

Andy Evans wrote:

To what are you replying to?

I think you'll find that conservatives are closer to traditional
thinking while liberals are more radical - working out things from
first principles.

So while the traditionalists are bemused and offended by "new
thinking", there are times in politics - dirty business that it is -
where the truth can only be found by working out things from first
principles.

If you use a logical and balanced approach and forget a lot of the US
and NATO hype, then you can, for instance, see how USA manipulated
the Balkans to its own ends in such a way that is - as Russia says -
not a million miles away from what's happening in South Ossetia.
Nobody is defending Russia's aggression where their sphere of
influence is threatened but nobody should be defending USA when they
did exatly the same in Grenada and numerous other places under the
Reagan doctrine.

Of course the US is a democracy and as such a better type of
government than others mentioned, but foreign policy is an entity in
itself, democracy or not, and it doesn't help to confuse the two or
create non-sequitors like "all democracies have better foreign
policies".


Then there is Ed Dolan, who merely likes to bark on the Internet.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

To what are you replying to?
Then there is Ed Dolan, who merely likes to bark on the Internet.

I must have just fancied a bark myself. Was I off topic by any
chance?

I thought it was an all-purpose generic rant and I was bored with
fitting seats and mudguards on my ex's bikes.

Andy

Andy Evans wrote:
Andy is most likely just ignorant of correct posting procedure. I will cut
him some slack just this once.

Your kindness is touching.

Rush Limbaugh does this sort of thing all the time and he can be as wrong as
anybody.

You might just as well talk about Rasputin. I’m Welsh.

Ignorant of Rush Limbaugh [1] - you lucky *******!

It was the god damn Europeans that should have done something about
the
Balkans, not the US.

Quite right. If the USA had not imposed impossible conditions on
Milosovic during initial talks like free access of NATO troops
throughout Serbia and deals regarding pipelines crossing the former
Yugoslavia, Milosovic would not have stormed out and the whole deal
would have been settled between Serbia and Croatia as it should have
been.

From the USian point of view, USians can do no wrong in world affairs.
USians also react badly when contrary view are presented, since they
have been taught from childhood that the US is the source of good in the
world.

we had to step in to save the region from a genocide.

The USA should stay out of counties whose cultures and histories it is
utterly ignorant of. As it turned out, NATO should bear the blame for
the failure of negotiations.

I do not give the Russians credit for anything. Their sphere of
influence should be confined to Russia proper and not extend one inch
beyond
it.

Whereas the USA can interfere anywhere in the globe, even if it can’t
even pronounce the names of the coutries correctly (Kossovo, Iraq)…..

Pronounce? Heck, the average USian can not find these countries on a map.

I am in favor of 'realpolitik' at all times.

I’m in favour of politicians who have enough grounding in world
culture and history to have the wisdom to tread carefully and revive
the true art of diplomacy. All we have these days trying to “lead the
free world” is jumped up Hollywood actors, oil barons and lawyers.
Tomorrow we could have reality TV contestants.

And who is not also barking on the Internet? Surely not you?

I’m not averse to a bit of a bark. Woof.

[1] I have worked at two different jobs where people listened to the man
bloviate.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Andy Evans wrote:
Andy is most likely just ignorant of correct posting procedure. I will
cut
him some slack just this once.

Your kindness is touching.

Rush Limbaugh does this sort of thing all the time and he can be as
wrong as
anybody.

You might just as well talk about Rasputin. I’m Welsh.

Ignorant of Rush Limbaugh [1] - you lucky *******!

It was the god damn Europeans that should have done something about
the
Balkans, not the US.

Quite right. If the USA had not imposed impossible conditions on
Milosovic during initial talks like free access of NATO troops
throughout Serbia and deals regarding pipelines crossing the former
Yugoslavia, Milosovic would not have stormed out and the whole deal
would have been settled between Serbia and Croatia as it should have
been.

M. was a Serbian thug and war criminal. Only Croatia knew how to kick
Serbian ass.

From the USian point of view, USians can do no wrong in world affairs.
USians also react badly when contrary view are presented, since they have
been taught from childhood that the US is the source of good in the world.

Tom Sherman belongs with the swinish French. His liberal ideology qualifies
him for only being an Asshole!

we had to step in to save the region from a genocide.

The USA should stay out of counties whose cultures and histories it is
utterly ignorant of. As it turned out, NATO should bear the blame for
the failure of negotiations.

There is nothing we would like to do better, but the g.d. Europeans will not
pull their weight in the world.

I do not give the Russians credit for anything. Their sphere of
influence should be confined to Russia proper and not extend one inch
beyond it.

Whereas the USA can interfere anywhere in the globe, even if it can’t
even pronounce the names of the coutries correctly (Kossovo, Iraq)…..

Pronounce? Heck, the average USian can not find these countries on a map.

Here is Tom Sherman being as stupid as possible. The fact is that he can't
find his own asshole, just like all liberal scumbags.

I am in favor of 'realpolitik' at all times.

I’m in favour of politicians who have enough grounding in world
culture and history to have the wisdom to tread carefully and revive
the true art of diplomacy. All we have these days trying to “lead the
free world” is jumped up Hollywood actors, oil barons and lawyers.
Tomorrow we could have reality TV contestants.

Typical liberal hogwash! How about I diplomacy up your ass!

And who is not also barking on the Internet? Surely not you?

I’m not averse to a bit of a bark. Woof.

[1] I have worked at two different jobs where people listened to the man
bloviate.

Just a couple of liberal assholes sniffing one another's butts. So what else
is new?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

M. was a Serbian thug and war criminal. Only Croatia knew how to kick
Serbian ass.

I think you must be unaware of how abysmally ignorant you are about
European history.

There is nothing we would like to do better, but the g.d. Europeans will not
pull their weight in the world.

So how come Bush calls the United Nations "irrelevent" when he wants
to do something and they don't? Do you want other countries to have
more influence or not? Or is it OK when Europeans back the USA but not
OK when they don't?

Typical liberal hogwash! How about I diplomacy up your ass!

Does this mean anything?

Just a couple of liberal assholes sniffing one another's butts. So what else
is new?

Oh, I see - you're obsessed with "asses". In Europe this is a word for
donkeys - don't know if you know this

Andy

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...
M. was a Serbian thug and war criminal. Only Croatia knew how to kick
Serbian ass.

I think you must be unaware of how abysmally ignorant you are about
European history.

What the hell is there to know about the god damn Balkans, except that they
all hate one another. But the Serbs are the worst of the lot. The US is
presently being Balkanized and we will end up with a lot of different ethnic
groups too - all hating one another. Another gift from the diversity crowd
of scumbag liberals.

There is nothing we would like to do better, but the g.d. Europeans will
not
pull their weight in the world.

So how come Bush calls the United Nations "irrelevent" when he wants
to do something and they don't? Do you want other countries to have
more influence or not? Or is it OK when Europeans back the USA but not
OK when they don't?

The Europeans have been out to lunch ever since the end of WWII. They depend
totally on the US for their security, as does all the rest of the free
world. Please, do not ever mention the UN when in my presence. It will only
make me puke!

Typical liberal hogwash! How about I diplomacy up your ass!

Does this mean anything?

It means 'diplomacy' is just another scumbag liberal word for doing nothing.

Just a couple of liberal assholes sniffing one another's butts. So what
else
is new?

Oh, I see - you're obsessed with "asses". In Europe this is a word for
donkeys - don't know if you know this.

Anyone who sides with Tom Sherman on any subject other than recumbents is an
asshole. What the hell do you think I have been doing here for the past 5
years?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota