LED LIghts

This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The
light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.
--
Bill

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 23:43:10 +0000, Bill wrote:

This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The
light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.


I think anything to do with lights does not apply to push-bikes.

Use of them is optional.
Brightness of them is optional.
If it is a red traffic light - then you may just ignore.



Judith

On 07/02/2014 23:43, Bill wrote:
This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike!

I'll bet you were surprised. A cyclist with any form of lighting is
highly unusual.


The light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

Cyclists are inconsiderate and irresponsible. It's in their nature.

--
Dave-Cyclists VORT
Motorists pay £46 billion a year in extra taxes, specifically so they
can use the roads.
Less than £10 billion of this is spent on roads.
Q: Do cyclists pay any specific, extra taxes in order to use their
vehicles on the road?
A: No. They are sponging freeloaders.

On 08/02/2014 15:29, Xander wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 23:43:10 +0000, Bill wrote:

This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The
light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.


I think anything to do with lights does not apply to push-bikes.

Use of them is optional.
Brightness of them is optional.
If it is a red traffic light - then you may just ignore.



Judith


.....said Jimdith, as he flapped around.

Flap, flap, flap.

On 07/02/2014 23:43, Bill wrote:
This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The
light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

You lived. What is the problem?

"Brian Robertson" wrote in message ...

On 07/02/2014 23:43, Bill wrote:
This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing
white light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had
dipped my main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As
I got closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see
the road ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam
flashes to drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was
no response. As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The
light appeared to be about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly
bright enough to be mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I
say, appearing to be on main beam.
Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

You lived. What is the problem?

No problem, but in future perhaps it might be a good idea to leave your HID
headlights (all four) on main beam, to give the perpetrator an idea of what
he was doing to others.

On 07/02/2014 23:43, Bill wrote:

Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

There are regulations, much the same as the regulations for other road
vehicles: no maximum, but must not cause undue dazzle or discomfort.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1.../contents/made

On 09/02/2014 10:38, Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 07/02/2014 23:43, Bill wrote:

Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

There are regulations, much the same as the regulations for other road
vehicles: no maximum, but must not cause undue dazzle or discomfort.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1.../contents/made

Since cyclists ignore the regulations about riding on pavements, jumping
red lights, one way systems etc, they aren't going to take much notice
of those.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

"Bill" wrote in message
...
This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing white
light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had dipped my
main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As I got
closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see the road
ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam flashes to
drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was no response.
As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The light appeared to be
about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly bright enough to be
mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I say, appearing to be on
main beam.

People complain about cyclists not using lights. Then people complain about
cyclists using lights. People should make their minds up.

Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

Yes, lights now available to cyclists are the same as those bl**dy
ridiculous and dangerous DRLs that vehicles are now required to have.

On 09/02/2014 14:30, TMS320 wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
...
This evening, 19:20 hrs, I was driving through a village, in a 30mph
limit, when a vehicle came the other way with a single front facing white
light on main beam, even from 300yds away it was dazzling. I had dipped my
main beam when I first saw it, but it stayed on main beam. As I got
closer I had to slow, ended up at about 10mph, as I could not see the road
ahead. I gave the oncoming vehicle a couple of brief main beam flashes to
drop a hint that he /she was still on main beam. There was no response.
As we passed I realised that it was a push bike! The light appeared to be
about 6" dia' and was seriously bright, certainly bright enough to be
mistaken for a car or motorbike headlamp, and as I say, appearing to be on
main beam.

People complain about cyclists not using lights. Then people complain about
cyclists using lights. People should make their minds up.

People are complaining about cyclists being inconsiderate.

Surely there must be some regulation as to the power and angle of bike
lighting, this was plain bl**dy ridiculous and dangerous to other road
users, as well as totally inconsiderate and irresponsible.

Yes, lights now available to cyclists are the same as those bl**dy
ridiculous and dangerous DRLs that vehicles are now required to have.

DRLs are yet another example of how motor vehicles have improved their
safety. There is nothing dangerous about DRLs at all.



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."