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Do tires make a difference in ride feel?
9000 miles ago I bought my first road bike with Continental GP 3000 tires.
I've changed them out with Conti's everytime they've worn out and never had a flat, so, given my experience, I really don't have a reason to consider going to a different tire because of reliability issues. I am curious though, as to whether different tires provide a different ride feel on a bike or whether it would all be in air pressure...a Conti would feel like everything else. I consider reliability a premium issue, so I don't want to risk a bunch of flats just to scratch my curiosity itch. I figured I would ask the collective wisdom of the group. Thoughts? |
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Do tires make a difference in ride feel?
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:31:57 -0500, prometheus7 wrote:
9000 miles ago I bought my first road bike with Continental GP 3000 tires. I've changed them out with Conti's everytime they've worn out and never had a flat, so, given my experience, I really don't have a reason to consider going to a different tire because of reliability issues. I am curious though, as to whether different tires provide a different ride feel on a bike or whether it would all be in air pressure...a Conti would feel like everything else. I consider reliability a premium issue, so I don't want to risk a bunch of flats just to scratch my curiosity itch. I figured I would ask the collective wisdom of the group. Thoughts? Certainly tires make a difference in ride feel. The stiffness of the sidewalls is a good measure of how much drag you'll feel from the tire. I had a set of cheapo Vittorias and it felt like I was dragging an anchor. A good, supple sidewall (with the proper pressure) and the whole bike will feel more lively. I've never used Conti's, though, since I've had to rescue too many riders using them, who have sidewall blowouts. -- David L. Johnson __o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember _`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ (_)/ (_) | |
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prometheus7 wrote: 9000 miles ago I bought my first road bike with Continental GP 3000 tires. I've changed them out with Conti's everytime they've worn out and never had a flat, so, given my experience, I really don't have a reason to consider going to a different tire because of reliability issues. I am curious though, as to whether different tires provide a different ride feel on a bike or whether it would all be in air pressure...a Conti would feel like everything else. I consider reliability a premium issue, so I don't want to risk a bunch of flats just to scratch my curiosity itch. I figured I would ask the collective wisdom of the group. Thoughts? I personally can feel no difference between tires of similar size. Handling and ride always feel about the same to me, whether I'm using a racing tire or a heavy duty commuting tire. For this reason, I find it hard to sell high end tires... it really annoys Vittoria loyalists when I say "they're just tires." I think it's to my benefit that I'm so undiscriminating. I have oodles of slightly used tires in my basement that more sensitive riders abandoned as too heavy or harsh or whatever. They work fine for me. -Vee |
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David L. Johnson writes:
9000 miles ago I bought my first road bike with Continental GP 3000 tires. I've changed them out with Conti's every time they've worn out and never had a flat, so, given my experience, I really don't have a reason to consider going to a different tire because of reliability issues. I am curious though, as to whether different tires provide a different ride feel on a bike or whether it would all be in air pressure...a Conti would feel like everything else. I consider reliability a premium issue, so I don't want to risk a bunch of flats just to scratch my curiosity itch. I figured I would ask the collective wisdom of the group. Thoughts? Certainly tires make a difference in ride feel. The stiffness of the sidewalls is a good measure of how much drag you'll feel from the tire. I had a set of cheapo Vittorias and it felt like I was dragging an anchor. A good, supple sidewall (with the proper pressure) and the whole bike will feel more lively. You mean RR is higher with thicker sidewalls (lower TPI) but the ride comfort is not perceptibly different, these damping losses being so small it takes careful measurement to characterize the difference in RR. You can most likely hear the difference because acoustic damping is significant for sound but that's literally in the noise for ride comfort. I've never used Conti's though, since I've had to rescue too many riders using them, who have sidewall blowouts. They are famous for that and their "kite string" low TPI casings should make that obvious. Jobst Brandt |
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Do tires make a difference in ride feel?
vredestein fortezza tricomps are puncture resistant and have a lively
feel even at 140psi |
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"prometheus7" wrote:
9000 miles ago I bought my first road bike with Continental GP 3000 tires. I've changed them out with Conti's everytime they've worn out and never had a flat, so, given my experience, I really don't have a reason to consider going to a different tire because of reliability issues. I am curious though, as to whether different tires provide a different ride feel on a bike or whether it would all be in air pressure...a Conti would feel like everything else. I consider reliability a premium issue, so I don't want to risk a bunch of flats just to scratch my curiosity itch. I figured I would ask the collective wisdom of the group. Thoughts? There's a couple of issues to consider when it comes to tire "feel." One has to do with tread pattern. The old (mid '80s?) Turbo S tires had a raised center ridge, supposedly to extend wear. That ridge would squirm as the tire rotated, producing a weird sensation. Another issue is traction. While not strictly related to "feel," a tire with good traction gives more confidence when cornering, especially in rain. Traction depends on tread material, tread pattern (or lack thereof), and inflation pressure. A lighter tire and higher thread count will produce more compliance, less rolling resistance, and some will say, a better feel. Personally, I think tire width, tread pattern, weight, and inflation pressure have the greatest effect. Will two otherwise identical tires, one with 66 tpi and the other with 127 tpi casings, feel very different? I tend to doubt whether most of us could tell the difference in a blind test. Art Harris |
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someone writes:
vredestein fortezza tricomps are puncture resistant and have a lively feel even at 140psi Ooh! "Lively", that's better than "supple", and at 140psi yet. How is that characterized in measurable terms? Jobst Brandt |
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aramco aramco!!
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if the manufacturer defines his goal as supplying a specific market
segment with an ideal tire for that MS then yahhoooo!!! there's a definite feel/longevity/punture resistance/AND USEAGE!! for each model: delightful and more reliable than beer the conti is malinged for the sidewall but the sidewall gives the TT really lifesaving performance and off couirse that's what a TT should do at 5PM in NM. the Conti TT's problem maybe be a lack of inflation - the pressure ## should read - "as necessary" i just ran 2 tires HDTouring with 100 pound ratings and the 100 pounds is $%^^##@ more reliable than the Conti suggested 70 |
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