Decked with a single blow

On 23/09/2019 17:53, TMS320 wrote:
On 23/09/2019 16:43, JNugent wrote:
On 23/09/2019 16:32, TMS320 wrote:

If you watch carefully, not only would you not be able to find any
Â*pedestrian lights but the assault was carried out by a person that
Â*happened to be walking.

What do you say the traffic lights at that exact location are for,
other than to allow pedestrians to cross the road in safety? Are
cyclists allowed to ignore red traffic lights at that or any other
set of signals?

It's taken several posts to put the issue of pedestrian lights to bed.
Do not move the goalposts.

A simple "yes" or "No" would be ideal in response that that second
part.

It is not a simple yes or no. Using the roads always requires ca
being dead but right doesn't work.

It's obvious that you're trying to say that it is alright for cyclists
not to obey traffic law.

Why can you not just get real and accept that lawbreaking is wrong?

Yes, the criminal cyclist dismounted from his steed and was on his
feet when he committed the crime of assault. So what?

When the offender appears in court on a charge of assault will the court
treat him differently to any other common criminal?

I would hope not. That is exactly what he is - a violent criminal
(though Mason seems to worship such deviants and doesn't seem to meet
with much criticism here for his anti-hero worship).


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On 23/09/2019 23:31, JNugent wrote:
On 23/09/2019 17:53, TMS320 wrote:
On 23/09/2019 16:43, JNugent wrote:
On 23/09/2019 16:32, TMS320 wrote:

If you watch carefully, not only would you not be able to find any
pedestrian lights but the assault was carried out by a person that
happened to be walking.

What do you say the traffic lights at that exact location are for,
other than to allow pedestrians to cross the road in safety? Are
cyclists allowed to ignore red traffic lights at that or any other
set of signals?

It's taken several posts to put the issue of pedestrian lights to bed.
Do not move the goalposts.

A simple "yes" or "No" would be ideal in response that that second
part.

It is not a simple yes or no. Using the roads always requires ca
being dead but right doesn't work.

It's obvious that you're trying to say that it is alright for cyclists
not to obey traffic law.

Whatever cyclists do (in the course of actually riding a bike), they
produce no more casualties, in proportion, than drivers. There is no
moral reason why they should be better.

And people that do not walk but only look at the world from behind a
windscreen should shut up. That includes you. How many more times do you
need to be told before it sinks in?

Oh, by the way, I don't ride past red traffic lights. Have you found out
the meaning of libel?

Why can you not just get real and accept that lawbreaking is wrong?

Yes, the criminal cyclist dismounted from his steed and was on his
feet when he committed the crime of assault. So what?

When the offender appears in court on a charge of assault will the
court treat him differently to any other common criminal?

I would hope not. That is exactly what he is - a violent criminal
(though Mason seems to worship such deviants and doesn't seem to meet
with much criticism here for his anti-hero worship).

Good. Then you must agree that most of the "cyclist did such and such"
reports are irrelevant to cycling and are off-topic.

On 23/09/2019 17:15, TMS320 wrote:

snip wander casually in front of a cyclist and expect the
cyclist to do something about it.

Such as, NOT go through a red light.

On 24/09/2019 07:26, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2019 17:15, TMS320 wrote:

snip wander casually in front of a cyclist and expect the cyclist to
do something about it.

Such as, NOT go through a red light.

Such as, even when nowhere near traffic lights.

On 24/09/2019 11:37, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/09/2019 07:26, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2019 17:15, TMS320 wrote:

snip wander casually in front of a cyclist and expect the cyclist
to do something about it.

Such as, NOT go through a red light.

Such as, even when nowhere near traffic lights...

.... or even when the pedestrian light is red and the carriageway light
is green.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:26:22 AM UTC+1, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2019 17:15, TMS320 wrote:

snip wander casually in front of a cyclist and expect the
cyclist to do something about it.

Such as, NOT go through a red light.

Or one RLJ per year by a cyclist.

https://road.cc/content/news/160517-...-light-jumping

On 24/09/2019 11:37, TMS320 wrote:
On 24/09/2019 07:26, soup wrote:
On 23/09/2019 17:15, TMS320 wrote:

snip wander casually in front of a cyclist and expect the cyclist
to do something about it.

Such as, NOT go through a red light.

Such as, even when nowhere near traffic lights.

Ah I see the 'problem'. You are 'talking' generalities where I am
'talking' about the incident linked to.