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Old October 15th 05, 03:58 PM
Hell and High Water
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Looking for a wheelbuilder in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

I'd prefer an individual, rather than an LBS.

TIA,

-Bob
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Old October 15th 05, 04:33 PM
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What wrong with an LBS? Assuming you can find one in your area that
*knows* how to build wheels, wouldn't they have all the needed supplies
and tools necessary to build a wheel? Further, what about warranty?
Most LBS charge between $30-60 per wheel for labor. Very reasonable if
they know what they're doing.

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Old October 15th 05, 05:04 PM
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"Hell and High Water" wrote ...
Looking for a wheelbuilder in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

I'd prefer an individual, rather than an LBS.

TIA,

-Bob


Buy the book and build it yourself ("The Bicycle Wheel", by r.b.t.'s own
Jobst Brandt)? Not that hard, and much more satisfying than paying an
individual or an LBS to do it.
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mark


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Old October 16th 05, 12:42 AM
bfd
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always feel like I'm imposing on them.
I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions
before, during, and after my wheels are built.

Hey, if you're paying what they're asking, its not imposing. Further,
most builders are proud to show off their work and explain what they
did.

may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs. I'll

buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for bringing a
bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it there.

And an independent person would want to use *your junk*? The one
independent wheelbuilder I know only uses spokes HE has purchased, and
won't use stuff brought in from someone else. For example, what if you
happen to buy the wrong spoke or the stuff you brought truly is *junk*?
Do you expect anyone to use it?

I've had spotty results from LBS's.

OK, if you don't have a good LBS near you that's different. Then maybe
you should be asking for reference to a good wheelbuilding LBS or
independent in your area.

Online prices (for materials) are 50-60% cheaper.

Maybe. You might save a few dollars buying online, but you better know
what you need, e.g., spoke size.


I'd prefer someone who specializes in this.

Assuming you can find a good LBS who KNOWS how to build wheels in your
area, wouldn't that shop be a specialist? After all, that what he does!

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Old October 16th 05, 02:40 AM
Phil, Squid-in-Training
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Hell and High Water wrote:
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What wrong with an LBS?


I always feel like I'm imposing on them.

I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions
before, during, and after my wheels are built.


During? Not a good idea. There are typically X opportunities to forget
what you were doing, where X corresponds to the number of spokes on a wheel.
Customers asking questions during a wheelbuild is a bad idea, and if they
forget where they were, you'll be eating the cost of detensioning and
retensioning.

If you can find one that *truly* doesn't mind, then great!

I may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs.
I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for
bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it
there.


They may charge you more for not having bought the spokes there, but guilt
is your problem, not theirs. Unless they're making you feel guilty.
Remember it's your choice to buy online.

I'll do some of the work myself. Tires, etc.

I'd like to get measurements/suggestions/answers from someone, and
feel no responsibility to PURCHASE any products from them, other than
their service.


If they're pressuring you to buy, leave. If you feel pressured yourself,
work on not feeling that way.

I'd prefer someone who specializes in this.


Bike shops do. Ask about their experience.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training


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Old October 16th 05, 09:24 AM
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bfd wrote:

Assuming you can find a good LBS who KNOWS how to build wheels in your
area, wouldn't that shop be a specialist? After all, that what he does!


the main problem with store mechanics is they are under tremendous
pressure to work fast.

so often a store built wheel is undertensioned, since it's quicker to
make a round and true wheel with low tension. getting a wheel up to
proper tension and making it round and true is a lot more labour
intensive.

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Old October 16th 05, 02:32 PM
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Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
Hell and High Water wrote:
In article .com,
says...


What wrong with an LBS?


I always feel like I'm imposing on them.

I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions
before, during, and after my wheels are built.


During? Not a good idea. There are typically X opportunities to forget
what you were doing, where X corresponds to the number of spokes on a wheel.
Customers asking questions during a wheelbuild is a bad idea, and if they
forget where they were, you'll be eating the cost of detensioning and
retensioning.


Not true. Since you use the truing stand, dishing tool and
tensiomometer as the 'gauge' to determine when the wheel is done, it's
pretty hard to 'forget' where you are. On busy days, it may take 3-4
hours to finish a wheel for me but I don't forget where I am in the
wheel.



If you can find one that *truly* doesn't mind, then great!

I may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs.
I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for
bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it
there.


They may charge you more for not having bought the spokes there, but guilt
is your problem, not theirs. Unless they're making you feel guilty.
Remember it's your choice to buy online.

I'll do some of the work myself. Tires, etc.

I'd like to get measurements/suggestions/answers from someone, and
feel no responsibility to PURCHASE any products from them, other than
their service.


If they're pressuring you to buy, leave. If you feel pressured yourself,
work on not feeling that way.

I'd prefer someone who specializes in this.


Bike shops do. Ask about their experience.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training


 




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