Tips for chain cleaning

On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:03:47 -0400, "Polly"
wrote:


And . . . on May 11th . . . Polly posted the same question. Same
e-mail address for both of 'em....

Does . . . uh . . . that make Polly a . . . troll??

Can't we all just talk about chain *lube* instead?

No that doesnt make me a TROLL I posted that message and it never showed
up..
Thanks for the replies to the post, Im not too keen on ripping every single
customers chain off thier bike and heating them.. although I could see where
I could easily charge extra for something like that.
I'll start a couple more threads on chain lube and chain cleaning devices.
PS Neil show me the link to that post..


Dear Polly,

If you go to a post in Google Groups, you can click on
show-options, which will then offer to
find-messages-by-this-author, which can then be sorted by
date.

Here's your previous May 11th post about chain-cleaning,
which provoked 55 replies:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c684f375747b65

Possibly you posted it and then lost track of it.

Searching Google Groups for posts containing words
describing your interest is a fast way to find and browse
lots of comments without waiting for replies or exposing
yourself to the usual heckling.

Carl Fogel

Polly wrote:

Thanks for the replies to the post, Im not too keen on ripping every
single customers chain off thier bike and heating them.. although I
could see where I could easily charge extra for something like that.

Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

"
Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

Um uh ummmmmmmm... what the hell is your point?
umm uh ummmmm gee are sure your not related to the student counsellor on
"South park"?
Heres a tip for you, keep your comments to yourself, ok?

Thanks Carl

I didnt realize you could access that information that way.

Most of the time when I start a thread I know the answer, Im hoping for some
new piece of advice or gadget. I'm curious about that doo-hicky from
nashbar.

I think the thing most of you out there fail to see is most "SHOP TOOLS" are
not made with certain mechanics in mind. You do hundreds of repairs you
always keep hoping for some wicked new SUPER tool. I was hoping there might
be some NEW shain cleaner I hadnt heard of as yet.
I used most of them, not crazy about the results. furthermore I dont like
the idea of sticking solvents down the drain. I gave up using my airbrush,
cause of my concern for all that paint going into the water system. Bikes
are pretty enviromentally friendly, so should cleaning them.
Hmm that gives me an idea for a new thread "How to dispose of used inner
tubes" Im sick of tossing these into the landfill.

polly

"Polly" wrote:


"
Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

Um uh ummmmmmmm... what the hell is your point?
umm uh ummmmm gee are sure your not related to the student counsellor on
"South park"?
Heres a tip for you, keep your comments to yourself, ok?


I'm reaching here, but it's possible that the point was: if you own,
or run, or work for a bike shop, it's presumed that you could write an
essay about chain cleaning and lubrication by your lonesome.

I didn't mean to attack by asking if you were trolling. When an
Original Poster posts, leaves, doesn't participate in the thread, then
posts the same question a few days later, well . . . .

But on this one, your comments look pretty suspicious. It's my take
that Bill was asking if you could reconcile the two items: asking how
we clean chains, and telling us that you own, or run, or work for a
bike shop. ("I never seem to get my chains clean enough")???

It does seem just a touch weird, no?

BTW: I liked the South Park reference ;-)

On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:45:03 -0400, "Polly"
wrote:


"
Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

Um uh ummmmmmmm... what the hell is your point?
umm uh ummmmm gee are sure your not related to the student counsellor on
"South park"?
Heres a tip for you, keep your comments to yourself, ok?


Um uh ummmmmmmm ... maybe you could answer the question?

Umm, well ok then, ok? [South Park immitation, to the best of my
recollection]

Well, we know that Peter, Andrew, Sheldon, and Robin all are
affiliated with bike shops. You are giving us the impression that you
might be, seems to me, that it is a fair question.


Life is Good!
Jeff

Polly wrote:
"
Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

Um uh ummmmmmmm... what the hell is your point?
umm uh ummmmm gee are sure your not related to the student counsellor
on
"South park"?
Heres a tip for you, keep your comments to yourself, ok?

Here's a comment for you, keep your tips to yourself, ok?

Cam
sorry but that one fell out of the obvious bag and wouldn't go back in.

Polly wrote (snipping and not quoting):
"
Ummm... You own or run or work for a bike shop?!?

Wow.

Um uh ummmmmmmm... what the hell is your point?
umm uh ummmmm gee are sure your not related to the student counsellor
on "South park"?
Heres a tip for you, keep your comments to yourself, ok?

UMMMMMMM, why did you delete this, Polly?:

" Thanks for the replies to the post, Im not too keen on ripping every
single customers chain off thier bike and heating them.. although I
could see where I could easily charge extra for something like that.
"

Does that not at least /imply/ that you are somehow involved in the bike
biz?

THAT was the hell my point.

Go munch a cracker.

Troll.

BS

"JH" wrote in message
oups.com...

Neil Brooks wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:

JH wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:

I thought the latest "science" was that cleaning a chain didn't
affect lifetime. I've stopped cleaning mine.

I think that the common use of oil for a lubricant rather than grease like the
factory uses is the cause of shorter chain life.

But even if this is true, the bike just runs so much more smoothly and
quietly with a clean chain.

It should, especially if there's a lot of sand in your vicinity.

Really? I've never noticed. I do oil it and wipe off the big chunks.
I'm with you on this. If I've done some really nasty riding--either
rain riding on the road bike, or mud riding on the mtb--I use WD-40, a
rag, and a toothbrush, but have *never* removed a chain for cleaning.

They run fine, whisper-quiet, get good life, and don't seem to be
cog-eaters.

I'd rather be riding....

Good policy, at least better than cleaning and oiling only. I would suggest
10W-40 rather than WD-40, to minimize removal of factory lubricants.

I suppose I'm probably imagining most of the "improvement" from the
clean chain. In any case I certainly agree that I'd rather be riding.
I save the chain cleaning for rainy nights.

Not at all. A dirty chain wears faster than a clean one, and wears the gears
too. Oil is an excellent lubricant, if you're going to repeat the clean and oil
cycle every few hundred miles. To extend the time interval between cleanings,
apply grease after the oil. It gets dirty just as quick as oil, but the dirt
and grit doesn't get into the bushings like it does when only oil is used.

Dale Benjamin wrote:

Not at all. A dirty chain wears faster than a clean one, and wears the gears
too. Oil is an excellent lubricant, if you're going to repeat the clean and oil
cycle every few hundred miles. To extend the time interval between cleanings,
apply grease after the oil. It gets dirty just as quick as oil, but the dirt
and grit doesn't get into the bushings like it does when only oil is used.

A poster on this NG conducted an experiment not too long ago where he
split a chain into 2 sections with quick links and cleaned only one
section. He found that the cleaning didn't improve chain life. Perhaps
you'd repeat the experiment with grease?