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Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies when they drank the water. Wow. Good reason to use fenders. When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!) Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders. I really like the Powerade bottles that they sell in Canada. There's a top cap that flips on and off, which covers the "nipple". Very efficient at keeping road crud away from your lips. PS: The stuff that comes stock inside the bottle is swill. I pour it down the sink and then refill the bottle with water and go ride. |
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Frank ? try rehab
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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 7:22:11 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
On 13/04/15 08:33, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies when they drank the water. Wow. Good reason to use fenders. Yes! DANGER! DANGER! When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!) Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders. It's only a matter of time before fenders (mud guards) are made mandatory to protect us from bacteria getting to our drink bottles. If just one life can be saved (insert wringing hands...) I shudder to think of the bacteria that is probably alive and well in my foam hat right now. I could die if I scratched my scalp and put my helmet on! -- JS AUS helmet laws, again, are a politician's strawman on getting stuff done ina dangerous environment. |
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:22:06 +1000, James
wrote: On 13/04/15 08:33, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies when they drank the water. Wow. Good reason to use fenders. Yes! DANGER! DANGER! When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!) Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders. It's only a matter of time before fenders (mud guards) are made mandatory to protect us from bacteria getting to our drink bottles. If just one life can be saved (insert wringing hands...) I shudder to think of the bacteria that is probably alive and well in my foam hat right now. I could die if I scratched my scalp and put my helmet on! Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut. and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine. from: http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html "In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live in your digestive tract." -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut. and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine. from: http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html "In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live in your digestive tract." That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered by the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an ecosystem. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut. and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine. from: http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html "In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live in your digestive tract." That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered by the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an ecosystem. Indeed and that infrastructure seems to have a profound influence on our individual functioning. There is some pretty preliminary research linking gut flora problems with things like depression (as the primary precursor molecule for serotonin is produced by bacteria in our guts, for example) as well as less surprising illness like irritable bowel syndrome, ulcerative colitis, C. difficile, etc. It may be possible to prevent or treat a number of diseases through dealing with bowel organisms. Preventing disease is most often the most cost effective approach. |
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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 8:11:35 PM UTC-4, Ralph Barone wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/12/2015 3:48 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: A few years ago a number of bicyclist in a group ride on Victoria Island (iirc) got very sick and had to go to hospital because they rode through some water that'd come from a farm. The spray onto their water bottles carried the bacteria (E-coli iirc) into their bodies when they drank the water. Wow. Good reason to use fenders. When my wife, daughter and I did a bike tour of Ireland, we were in Killarney, cruising around the national park. There were plenty of sheep about, plus horse-drawn carriage rides for the tourists. And it was raining. (Of _course_ it was raining! It was Ireland!) Anyway, the various animal droppings plus the rain covered the roads in a rich organic soup. We were _really_ glad we had fenders. I really like the Powerade bottles that they sell in Canada. There's a top cap that flips on and off, which covers the "nipple". Very efficient at keeping road crud away from your lips. PS: The stuff that comes stock inside the bottle is swill. I pour it down the sink and then refill the bottle with water and go ride. I also buy Powerade for the bottles. I like that the flip cap has a flat spoy opposite the 'hinge' part. The Powerade itself isn't so great and often has a unpleasant after tast for me. I just wish they hadn't changed the neck size of their smaller bottles because the caps from the big bottles used to fit tthe smaller ones but not any more. Cheers |
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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:49:35 PM UTC-4, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/12/2015 9:06 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: Apparently there are multitudes of bacteria already in the Human gut. and E. coli is a consistent resident of the small intestine. from: http://www.livescience.com/3092-huma...a-thought.html "In sheer numbers, the mammalian colon harbors one of the densest microbial communities found on Earth. For every human cell in your body, there are roughly 10 single-celled microbes, most of which live in your digestive tract." That seems to be a fact whose implications are still being deciphered by the medical community. We're not just an animal; we're an ecosystem. Indeed and that infrastructure seems to have a profound influence on our individual functioning. There is some pretty preliminary research linking gut flora problems with things like depression (as the primary precursor molecule for serotonin is produced by bacteria in our guts, for example) as well as less surprising illness like irritable bowel syndrome, ulcerative colitis, C. difficile, etc. It may be possible to prevent or treat a number of diseases through dealing with bowel organisms. Preventing disease is most often the most cost effective approach. Which is why it's sometimes advisable to have road rash cleaned out by a professional. Cheers |
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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 7:41:35 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/12/2015 5:06 PM, Graham wrote: To answer your direct question as to how some of us get into trouble then it is because we train, we race, we push the envelope and when you do that as several other posters have said "**** happens". Do not get me wrong I have the greatest respect for all who ride a bike but I have the utmost contempt for the likes of you who continually deride those who do not conform to your view of what cycling is about. If you want to show how wrong I am in deriding cyclists who don't conform to my view of what cycling's about, you'd be better off doing it in direct response to such a statement. As it is, it looks to me like you're reacting to imaginary statements, or at least very poorly remembered ones. To explain: My own cycling has included lots of recreation riding (from 10 mph 5 mile rides with slow friends, to much longer and faster rides with others); lots of commuting, often with built-in time trials, as in "can I set a PR getting home today?"; lots of utility riding; attending and leading countless club rides; mountain bike rides, both alone and with club members; rides at statewide and national rallies; a little road racing, quite a few time trials, many centuries and longer rides, up to one double century; touring in something like a dozen countries, including a 4000 mile unsupported coast-to-coast U.S. tour, self-guided. So which style of riding am I missing? The falling part? Yes, we've had at least one person posting here who said I don't know much about bicycling because I don't crash enough - or words to that effect. If that's your view of "what cycling is all about," I'll continue to skip it.. Regarding crashing, I'm not claiming that a cyclist can prevent absolutely every crash. But (for one example) I do think "I didn't see the gravel so I slid out on that turn" counts as a cyclist mistake, not an act of God. Riding at 11 tenths, as they say, isn't admirable. I've been on lots of rides where I saw other riders crash. The only crash I recall that I think the rider couldn't have prevented was when the front forks suddenly snapped off when the bike hit a minor bump. -- - Frank Krygowski For one example, I crashed in Hamilton, Ontario when I was riding abot 25mph westbound on king Street and some idiot on a bicycle zoomed out of a blind corner street that he was riding the wrong way on. There was no way to avoid hitting him. Another example of an unavoidable crash was on a rail-trail when I swerved to miss some other idiot's dog that was off leash (dogs are supposed to be leashed there) and ran out of the woods and directly in front of me. I swerved to avoid hitting tthe dog because it was small and i thought i'd kill it if i hit it. Unfortunately me front wheel went onto the loose gravel at the edge of the rail-trail embankment and I went down hard. Sometimes no matter how careful you are crap happens tthat results in a bicyclist crashing. You're very fortunate Frank that it's never happened to you. Cheers |
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"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message ... On 4/12/2015 5:06 PM, Graham wrote: [snip] If you want to show how wrong I am in deriding cyclists who don't conform to my view of what cycling's about, you'd be better off doing it in direct response to such a statement. As it is, it looks to me like you're reacting to imaginary statements, or at least very poorly remembered ones. Come off it Frank this is just another one of your demeaning tactics. After all these years of posting here have not the reactions of a large cross section of responders to your comments got through to you. I have said this before, you seem to be insensitive to the tone of your posts. If you cannot or will not see it then so be it. I will leave it to others to form and/or voice their own opinions. Graham. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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