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Old September 28th 17, 10:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 11:36:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-28 07:39, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being
soil soon enough.

It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing
this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok
to litter.

How about when you ride the road? Would you have us believe that
you have never witnessed your banana peel land on someone's
leaf-pile, or at the foot of a garbage can brought out to the
street, or heard it wad up against the rear window of a parked
pickup truck?


As I wrote earlier I do not chuck my banana peels or anything else
for that matter into the environment and I find people who do so
anti-social.


And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates to be part of
nature and haven't any problems with it.



I do have a problem with that:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tains-scotland

Also, it's not a native plant in this area and could be harmful to some
wildlife.


... But I personally do not
carry such things with me like an orange or a banana.


I don't either but in case I do I make sure I pack out everything I take
with me. 100%.


But sitting even in coffee shops I find that virtually everyone
leaves their crap for someone to clean up while I always put trash in
the trash can and put the dishes into the dirty dish container. I
have never been able to break anyone of the habit of simply walking
off even when they F-ing walk past the trash can on their way to
their bikes.


Beats me why people do that. I find it disrespectful. Even when sitting
at a table in a pub instead of at the bar I always bring the glass back
to the bar. The other riders do the same.


I looked up these decomposing times on the internet and they are pure crap. I have an orange tree in my backyard. Within TWO DAYS an orange is rotten and within a week it is black and drying. If I kick it off of the pavement into the grass it is gone so rapidly that I don't get a pile of them there. And you should know how fast orange trees drop fruit one they get ripe. I have to sweep this stuff away every single day for several months.

They are telling you that a banana skin takes more time to decompose than a wool sock. Think about that. If you have ever been around sheep you'd know that they shed everywhere. You don't see large masses of wool around.

I am really getting tired of "environmentalists" publishing this sort of thing. Try putting one of those thin plastic bags out in the sun for a month. We're being told that it takes a thousand years but a monofilament fishing line only takes 600 years. While I can believe the monofilament line time, the plastic bag is pure fantasy.

That "floating plastic bag island" in the middle of the Pacific turns out to be one particle of plastic per square meter. Not this floating mass of bags as they are trying to make you picture. There are now bacteria that eat this plastic.

I was one of the first environmentalists until I saw what they were doing. Now I follow good sense and forget these idiots. Two years for a banana skin to decompose indeed.
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Old September 28th 17, 10:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 1:17:16 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-28 12:50, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 2:25 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-28 12:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

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-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?


And also, where? The grossest thing is human poop right on
the singletrack. I was able to dodge it just in time. Yuck.
Some people are unfit to live within a society.


I just hate that and the usual, "Hey dude it's organic."


Unfortunately a lot of cyclists have other behavior issues as well.
Sunday I was riding along a MUP and saw a woman and her small dog. She
looked a bit shaken so I stopped and inquired. Turns out the two
cyclists who had come the other way at high speed had yelled at her to
get out of the way. "So now I and my dog have to walk on the dirt". I
told her she doesn't have to do that, it's also her path, to ignore such
cyclists and that they were probably jerks.

Car drivers aren't far behind. Yesterday during a MTB ride I was walking
around in the lanes of a county road, signaling a driver to slow down.
He honked and floored it. A 2nd driver stopped and inquired, as is
appropriate. I was picking up two dozen thick lag screws up to 4" long
that were strewn across both lanes. Must have dropped off a truck. It
was a curve and those could have even caused a car driver to lose
control because hitting so much hardware can be like entering a sheet of
ice. Why are some people so nuts?

I don't think I'll have to buy lag screws anytime soon :-)


Well, I think I've said it before but: I used to clear rocks and fallen branches and even small trees off of the mountain roads. But then I realized that I was making it easier for those jerks to speed and play baby Mario Andretti. So I stopped doing it. To hell with them.

Last Sunday I was riding over the local hill road that finally reopened after slides from last winter's rains. I was about two feet from the right side of the road and as I swerved over a couple of inches to miss a pothole I was damn near hit by one of those modern vans that are box-like. It hadn't made a sound approaching and instead of taking the left lane which was clear far into the distance the jackass was going to clear me by inches. Well that is exactly what he or she did. When they swerved to clear me their mirror just missed me and the side of the car almost touched.

I won't do anything to help these fools.
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Old September 29th 17, 03:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:20:04 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?


Weeeel . . . I don't dump garbage just anywhere. I look for a place
where it will do some good, and won't be visible while it's
decomposing. I was terribly embarrassed when I threw a banana peel
into a bean field and it caught on a weed, waving like a flag, and I
couldn't have gone in to knock it down without stepping on beans.

I remember sitting in Thatcher Park field-stripping an apple core. I
was too tired to find a weed patch, so I reduced it to a stem and some
seeds that could vanish in the manicured lawn.

Recently, I sat in front of the animal shelter (which had closed just
before I got there, so I still don't know what size pieces I should
cut my unwanted king-size quilt into) eating a banana, and planning to
throw it over the fence across the street, but when I got close to the
fence, I saw that instead of the row crop I'd expected, there was a
closely-mowed pasture. And though the weeds in the fence were thick
enough to block the view, they weren't thick enough to hide a banana
peel, so I took the peeling home and put it on the compost heap.

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Old September 29th 17, 05:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 6:00:30 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/28/2017 10:42 AM, wrote:

Believe me, if I didn't have an older brother to cart around to doctors and my wife didn't have grandchildren to baby sit I'd be living in Phoenix right not among people who have like minds.


See
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/traveltale...elersandfarmer


Yeah, there's no difference aside for the cost of living and the cost of a home. I could sell my home here and spend one third the price for the same size home in Phoenix. Gas is a dollar a gallon cheaper without California taxes on it. Property taxes are much cheaper. And there are no "sanctuary cities" which are designed not to protect illegals but the felons among them.
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Old September 30th 17, 04:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/29/2017 12:41 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 6:00:30 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/28/2017 10:42 AM,
wrote:

Believe me, if I didn't have an older brother to cart around to doctors and my wife didn't have grandchildren to baby sit I'd be living in Phoenix right not among people who have like minds.


See
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/traveltale...elersandfarmer


Yeah, there's no difference aside for the cost of living and the cost of a home. I could sell my home here and spend one third the price for the same size home in Phoenix. Gas is a dollar a gallon cheaper without California taxes on it. Property taxes are much cheaper. And there are no "sanctuary cities" which are designed not to protect illegals but the felons among them.


So quit bitching and move.

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