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"Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling
On 05/06/2017 19:15, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/06/2017 17:27, JNugent wrote: On 05/06/2017 16:04, wrote: On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote: On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote: [ ... ] You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery. All of course using tax free fuel. Lawn mowers and garden equipment Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane Recreational boats and personal watercraft Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and pumps that use diesel engines. Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft Locomotive Aircraft engine In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary engines that are diesel powered. Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation than fuel intended for use on the roads. and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on the road? You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot. The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists At last, you agree that there is a specific extra tax paid by motorists in order that they may legally use the road. You will find that this tax is commonly called 'road tax' Well done. That *was* for Freda, though. |
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"Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling
On 05/06/2017 18:29, wrote:
On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 5:27:37 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 05/06/2017 16:04, wrote: On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote: On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote: [ ... ] You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery. All of course using tax free fuel. Lawn mowers and garden equipment Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane Recreational boats and personal watercraft Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and pumps that use diesel engines. Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft Locomotive Aircraft engine In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary engines that are diesel powered. Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation than fuel intended for use on the roads. and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on the road? You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot. The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists does not even cover the cost of motorway maintenance. Maybe you think LGV drivers can ram cars off the road because LGV's use more fuel. You are clearly demented. Childish You have to be, since you "think" that airily dismissing the £300,000,000,000 (approx.) collected in fuel taxes means that it is not taxe paid by road users in respect of road use. Now it's 3 Hundred Billion. Yes, that was my transcription error. Mea Cclpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Road Tax Does not exist ....even though it raises £6,000,000,000 a year (at current rates). That is a wonderful state of non-existence, isn't it? All the VAT on purchase prices, spare parts, repairs, servicing and accessories, as well as insurance premium tax, is Paid equally by cyclists. The VAT on a cheap new car costing £12,000 would be 1/6th (£2,000). Is that equal to the VAT on a new Halfords bicycle? |
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"Road Tax" - nothing to do with cycling
On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:59:59 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 05/06/2017 18:29, wrote: On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 5:27:37 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 05/06/2017 16:04, wrote: On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:22 PM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote: On 05/06/2017 09:41, colwyn wrote: [ ... ] You could add some of these "Road tax" paying pieces of machinery. All of course using tax free fuel. Lawn mowers and garden equipment Snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and all-terrain vehicles Forklifts, generators, and compressors using gasoline or propane Recreational boats and personal watercraft Non-road diesel engines (machinery) in construction and agricultural equipment such as backhoes and tractors. Other equipment are included such as ground support equipment, and heavy forklifts, generators and pumps that use diesel engines. Marine engines, Jet skies, pleasure craft Locomotive Aircraft engine In certain jurisdictions, the non-road engines may include stationary engines that are diesel powered. Aircraft fuel, as you may know (but, it seems, didn't) is not taxed like petrol. Agricultural diesel is also subject to lower rates of taxation than fuel intended for use on the roads. and do any of them pay a specific extra tax in order to be used on the road? You really seem to enjoy shooting yourself in the foot. The 'specific extra tax' i.e. VED payed by motorists does not even cover the cost of motorway maintenance. Maybe you think LGV drivers can ram cars off the road because LGV's use more fuel. You are clearly demented. Childish You have to be, since you "think" that airily dismissing the £300,000,000,000 (approx.) collected in fuel taxes means that it is not taxe paid by road users in respect of road use. Now it's 3 Hundred Billion. Yes, that was my transcription error. Mea Cclpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Apology accepted. Road Tax Does not exist ...even though it raises £6,000,000,000 a year (at current rates). That is a wonderful state of non-existence, isn't it? How can a non existent tax raise any money? VED raises £6,000,000,000 a year of which £10,000,000,000 is spent on motorways. All the VAT on purchase prices, spare parts, repairs, servicing and accessories, as well as insurance premium tax, is Paid equally by cyclists. The VAT on a cheap new car costing £12,000 would be 1/6th (£2,000). Is that equal to the VAT on a new Halfords bicycle? So you agree VAT charged on vehicles is not unique to motor vehicles and is not a motoring tax. |
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