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Old July 21st 07, 05:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


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Old July 21st 07, 09:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:13:44 +0200, Morten Reippuert
wrote:

This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


I never understood just why there was a presumption that he would be hopeless.
Obviously he just plain lost his **** two years ago, but that's not as hard to
fix as not being able to ride. And while I wouldn't expect him to hang with the
best TT riders I don't see why a guy who can climb like that wouldn't beat the
rest of the dog pile.

Ron
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Old July 22nd 07, 06:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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RonSonic wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:13:44 +0200, Morten Reippuert
wrote:


This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


I never understood just why there was a presumption that he would be hopeless.
Obviously he just plain lost his **** two years ago, but that's not as hard to
fix as not being able to ride. And while I wouldn't expect him to hang with the
best TT riders I don't see why a guy who can climb like that wouldn't beat the
rest of the dog pile.


I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing
that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more
than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have
stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to
Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich.

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Old July 22nd 07, 09:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 21, 10:25 pm, Morten Reippuert
wrote:
RonSonic wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:13:44 +0200, Morten Reippuert
wrote:
This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.

I never understood just why there was a presumption that he would be hopeless.
Obviously he just plain lost his **** two years ago, but that's not as hard to
fix as not being able to ride. And while I wouldn't expect him to hang with the
best TT riders I don't see why a guy who can climb like that wouldn't beat the
rest of the dog pile.


I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing
that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more
than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have
stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to
Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich.


Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally
or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007
is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted,
he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year,
or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit
for a proper TT position.

I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone
else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem
to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion
if any by the final TT.

Ben

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Old July 22nd 07, 08:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William R. Mattil
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen wrote:


He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden
today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador.


So assuming that they stick to one another during the rest of the
mountain stages that leaves a final TT for Contador to make up time.


What's the consensus of the group here ? Can Rasmusen rise to the
challenge one more time ?

FWIW I have to admire Klodi. He never panicked. Vino appears to be finis.



Bill
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Old July 23rd 07, 01:03 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
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This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


Here's the problem - the only reason he did so well was because of that
little Cat 4 climb at the start of the stage and the fact that he had clean
roads while almost everyone else was riding on wet slippery roads.

He won't have those advantages next Saturday so he'd better have 3-4 minutes
advantage in order to stay clear.

I wonder what happened to Valverde. That isn't like him at all.


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Old July 23rd 07, 01:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 22, 8:03 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in messagenews
This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


Here's the problem - the only reason he did so well was because of that
little Cat 4 climb at the start of the stage and the fact that he had clean
roads while almost everyone else was riding on wet slippery roads.

He won't have those advantages next Saturday so he'd better have 3-4 minutes
advantage in order to stay clear.

I wonder what happened to Valverde. That isn't like him at all.


age

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Old July 23rd 07, 05:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Steven L. Sheffield
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On 07/22/2007 09:29 AM, in article , "Morten
Reippuert Knudsen" wrote:

wrote:

I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing
that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more
than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have
stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to
Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich.


Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally
or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007
is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted,
he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year,
or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit
for a proper TT position.


I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone
else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem
to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion
if any by the final TT.


He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden
today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador.




Michael Arse-ficken should be thrown out of the Tour for his multiple missed
tests over the past couple of years.

Let Contador and Evans fight it out.

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Old July 23rd 07, 12:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 23, 2:03 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in messagenews
This time Chicken stayed on the bike, and his statement from the restday
claiming that he wouldn't loose more than 3 minuttes came true.


Here's the problem - the only reason he did so well was because of that
little Cat 4 climb at the start of the stage and the fact that he had clean
roads while almost everyone else was riding on wet slippery roads.


Utter nonsense.

1. The only one with really worse conditions was Vinokourov. The top
ten started very close to each other
2. Rasmussen didn't do well at the climb at all (Contador did), he
only lost 5 seconds to Evans in the last flat miles of the stages

Sorry Tom, your reasoning simply doesn't match with the reality of the
stage

He won't have those advantages next Saturday so he'd better have 3-4 minutes
advantage in order to stay clear.

I wonder what happened to Valverde. That isn't like him at all.


Valverde... Sick? Pressure?



 




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