Shared use tunnels

After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal to Shetland.

On 23/11/2015 20:12, Tom Crispin wrote:

After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal to Shetland.

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian route?

*Traffic* *lights*?

This does not inspire confidence, does it?

On Monday, 23 November 2015 20:12:39 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:
After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal to Shetland.

This has just opened as well.

On Monday, 23 November 2015 20:33:58 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
On Monday, 23 November 2015 20:12:39 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:
After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal to Shetland.

This has just opened as well.

http://magazine.good.is/articles/ams...spaces-parking

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:18:23 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian route?

*Traffic* *lights*?


Just because motorists think traffic lights are optional doesn't mean primary vehicle users will ignore them.

On 23/11/2015 20:18, JNugent wrote:
On 23/11/2015 20:12, Tom Crispin wrote:

After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and
Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short
routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design
appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much
information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will
reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel
use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal
to Shetland.

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian route?

*Traffic* *lights*?

This does not inspire confidence, does it?




Cyclists can share the tunnels under London, the Circle line is quite a
useful route

On 23/11/2015 20:12, Tom Crispin wrote:
After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and
Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

Continuous pestering and whinging by a bunch of no life muppets is a
more accurate description.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short
routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design
appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much
information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will
reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy
tunnel use." http://fogwoft.com/blog/

Since cyclists don't obey traffic signals on roads, what chance is there
of them doind=g so in a tunnel?

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1,
Deal to Shetland.

What a waste of public money.

Mrcheerful wrote:
On 23/11/2015 20:18, JNugent wrote:
On 23/11/2015 20:12, Tom Crispin wrote:

After a tireless campaign by Greenwich Cyclists, the Greenwich and
Woolwich foot tunnels are to become shared use.

"The system is experimental and could be a model for other short
routes where pedestrians and cyclists share limited space. The design
appears simple and would appear not to overload users with too much
information. It's best to see the concept as traffic lights that will
reinforce when cyclists must dismount and walk because of heavy tunnel
use."
http://fogwoft.com/blog/

The Greenwich Foot Tunnel forms a part of National Cycle Route 1, Deal
to Shetland.

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian route?

*Traffic* *lights*?

This does not inspire confidence, does it?

Cyclists can share the tunnels under London, the Circle line is quite a
useful route

Tube tunnels are not the public highway, and so cyclists do not enjoy a
common law, uninfringeable right to use them.

--
john smith
'_The Guardian_. Wrong about everything. All the time'
(Anon)

On 23/11/2015 21:07, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:18:23 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian route?

*Traffic* *lights*?


Just because motorists think traffic lights are optional doesn't mean primary vehicle users will ignore them.

By "primary vehicle users" do you mean cyclists? Who account for 1% of
journeys?

On 23/11/2015 21:16, David Lang wrote:
On 23/11/2015 21:07, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:18:23 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:

"Traffic lights" to police the behaviour of cyclists on a pedestrian
route?

*Traffic* *lights*?


Just because motorists think traffic lights are optional doesn't mean
primary vehicle users will ignore them.

By "primary vehicle users" do you mean cyclists? Who account for 1% of
journeys?


Primary means predominant, so that would be all motorised traffic.