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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
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Saturday, August 11, 2007 (2.3 Mile Criterium Course) 9:00 AM Pro Men Stage 1 Time-Trial $15,000 4.5 miles 11:45 AM Women Cat. 3/4 $3,000 20 Mins.+ 1 lap WHAT THE ****?? 12:15 PM Juniors 10-14 Awards 3 laps 12:40 PM Juniors 15-18 Awards 20 Mins.+ 1 lap What the ****????? 1:10 PM Men Cat. 5 - Heat 1 Awards 20 Mins.+ 1 lap 1:40 PM Men Cat. 5 - Heat 2 Awards 20 Mins.+ 1 lap 2:10 PM Men Cat. 3/4 $5,000 20 Mins. + 1 lap 2:45 PM Pro-AM Men Cat. 1/2 $17,500 60K 5:30 PM Pro Men Stage 2 $32,500 80K Sunday, August 12, 2007 (1.7 Mile Criterium Course) 9:00 AM Masters Men Cat. 4/5 $3,000 35 Mins.+ 1 lap Cat 5's can race for cash now???? When did this happen? 9:45 AM Masters Men Cat. 1/2/3 $4,000 35 Mins.+ 1 lap 10:30 AM Mayor's Challenge Awards 4 laps 11:05 AM Trustees Fun Ride 1 lap 11:30 AM Big Wheel Race 2-7 Awards 100 meters 12:15 PM Pro Women Cat. 1/2 $15,000 60K 2:00 PM Alexian Brothers Pro Men Stage 3 $105,000 110K |
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Philosophically I am with you on handing out large prize lists to lower category racers. In my experience it leads to lots of lesser skilled riders eating lots of pavement. The race is sponsored by a hospital so maybe that's the point, eh? At any rate, mixing categories allows them to do this. they had one of these big money cat 3 races here in OH a few years ago ... and you had guys rushing to downgrade in time for the race, then afterwards sandbagging complaints and checking to see if categories were legit. what a hassle. in the larger picture ... we should be giving guys more incentive to MOVE UP, not down or stay the same. Many of the races here the last few years have small 1/2 fields and then 3/4 fields that are 2 or 3x as large. |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
On Jun 12, 8:49 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: wrote: Philosophically I am with you on handing out large prize lists to lower category racers. In my experience it leads to lots of lesser skilled riders eating lots of pavement. The race is sponsored by a hospital so maybe that's the point, eh? At any rate, mixing categories allows them to do this. they had one of these big money cat 3 races here in OH a few years ago ... and you had guys rushing to downgrade in time for the race, then afterwards sandbagging complaints and checking to see if categories were legit. what a hassle. in the larger picture ... we should be giving guys more incentive to MOVE UP, not down or stay the same. Many of the races here the last few years have small 1/2 fields and then 3/4 fields that are 2 or 3x as large. In Wisconsin this would be the Superweek effect. It used to be the case that no one would upgrade before Superweek. This race, which is effectively at the end of the season, will extend that. I didn't notice it before but some of those races have 175 rider field limits. Bike racing is entertainment, and 175 riders in a crit will certainly be entertaining. And don't get me started on pro Masters racing. Just don't. Amateur racing should get NOTHING but trophies or nothing at all. Anyone that accepts prize money should be immediately disqualified as an amateur for 5 years. |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
On Jun 12, 11:49 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: And don't get me started on pro Masters racing. Just don't. hey, what other excuse then could we tell our wives for why we need to race every weekend? |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:51:31 -0000, "
wrote: they had one of these big money cat 3 races here in OH a few years ago ... and you had guys rushing to downgrade in time for the race, then afterwards sandbagging complaints and checking to see if categories were legit. what a hassle. in the larger picture ... we should be giving guys more incentive to MOVE UP, not down or stay the same. Many of the races here the last few years have small 1/2 fields and then 3/4 fields that are 2 or 3x as large. Yeah. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
On Jun 12, 10:49 am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: And don't get me started on pro Masters racing. Just don't. I'm curious, so can you elaborate? |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
Duped,
Someone has duped you into thinking that there is a unlimited amount of time in a day to run all the races at an event. Not even Mike can change a 24 hour day into a 30 hour day, or change the number of daylight hours in a day. |
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Mike Hanley asleep at the wheel again?
On Jun 13, 9:23 am, "xzzy" wrote:
Duped, Someone has duped you into thinking that there is a unlimited amount of time in a day to run all the races at an event. Not even Mike can change a 24 hour day into a 30 hour day, or change the number of daylight hours in a day. he's not complaining about the time ... someone has duped the promoters into thinking cat 4s, cat 3s, and Pro Masters should get Pro money (well, dreamer-Pro money). and duped the cat 4s, 3s and PM's into expecting it. |
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