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Max heart rates and age
I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. Based
on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? Thanks |
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On 6/9/2011 11:56 AM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? Thanks These are just general guidelines. By those same standards my Max heartrate is around 160. I can still get to 188 when sufficiently motivated. So take with an appropriate grain of salt. Bill -- William R. Mattil http://www.celestial-images.com |
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Your numbers sound reasonable. I'm 53, 220-age gives me 167 bpm, I saw
172 on the treadmill when getting a stress echo and I wasn't anywhere near gassed. Most guys I know who are older who race or raced and still ride have higher max HR's than 220-age would indicate. |
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On Jun 9, 9:56*am, Choppy Warburton wrote:
I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. * *Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. *I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? *Thanks 220 minus your age with an estimated standard deviation of ~10 bpm means its not a very useful statistic. 95% of 20 year olds would have a max HR between 180 and 220. 30 year old between 170 and 210 etc. Not a reliable method of measuring exertion as it can vary so much depending on temperature, hydration, training state etc. In my lifetime, I've never seen anything above the 160s. Generally athletes have lower max HR than sedentary people but can pump more blood per beat. I'm not sure that having a higher max HR means anything significant. Phil H |
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Choppy Warburton wrote:
I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? Thanks Consider increasing your stimulant dosage. |
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On Jun 9, 11:21*am, Brad Anders wrote:
Your numbers sound reasonable. I'm 53, 220-age gives me 167 bpm, I saw 172 on the treadmill when getting a stress echo and I wasn't anywhere near gassed. Most guys I know who are older who race or raced and still ride have higher max HR's than 220-age would indicate. I'll be your age in a couple of months, and I still occasionally see 190 on a good day and a hard climb. But I'd gladly trade 10bpm for 8kph. |
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At 36 I had physiology test and had a VO2 Max of 68, but a max heart rate of
160. BTW...it was done at UMass Medical for a program to calibrate Lifecycle levels to actual human specimens. "Choppy Warburton" wrote in message ... I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? Thanks |
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On Jun 9, 11:56*am, Choppy Warburton
wrote: I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. * *Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. *I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? *Thanks Don't know squat but if you could have passed your enemy while maxing out at, say, 116 bpm, it would be better than having to go to 185 bpm to do it. Of course, you need the actual heart of a youngster to do that kind of thing, plus the training. I think they came up with those numbers back in the days of some fitness craze of yore as a way of holding the body count and wrongful death lawsuits to a reasonable miniumum. --D-y |
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On 6/9/2011 12:56 PM, Choppy Warburton wrote:
I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? Thanks Two years ago my brother was told he had the coronary arteries of a 25 year-old. Unfortunately, he had the mitral valve of an 80 year old, so he needed surgery. Too many moving parts. Steve |
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That statistic has too high variance to be meaningful in any single
case. The best method is to do your own max heart rate test, a 5 minute maximal effort (noting that max heart rate may appear after the effort), and work from there. However, this misleading statistic is remarkably persistent. I had a stress test where the doctor (he told me he was one after I started telling him he was ignorant) stopped because I reached 220-age, and wrote in his report that I was at the "acme of effort." Nothing could persuade him that my max was actually at least 18 beats higher, including (a) I had seen that 2 weeks before on my heart rate monitor, (b) that what he stated was my maximum was actually my aerobic threshold heart rate and I could maintain that rate for at least 30 minutes, and the best argument (c) I was having a normal conversation with him at my supposed maximal heart rate. My big mistake there was paying him for the consultation. Afterwards, I had a laugh about it with the doctor who referred me and who worked in the same medical sports center, Dr. Gerard Porte. By the way, real sports medicine doctors report that max heart rates in the 180's for racing cyclists in their 60's is not at all unusual. In the other direction, there was a 30 year old female grad student racing at Stanford whose maximal heart rate was about 170, and she had previously been a speedskater. Add to that the fact that women generally have higher max heart rates. Max heart rate is different for different sports. Running should give you a higher max than cycling. Personally, I saw a slightly higher value roller skating. Max heart rate can decrease with increased fitness. The highest I ever saw was 204 when I started riding again seriously and used a heart rate monitor for the first time. After a year of training and much improved fitness, I never went above 195 ever again. Since then, it's decreased to about 187 in 15 years, but gets that high only when I am less fit. I talked to a guy in August 2002 who was good friends with Azevedo, and he told me that Beloki's heart rate was 230 when he attacked Armstrong (which happened only once in that Tour de France). Finally, one thing which I never quite figured out. As your max heart rate goes down, is the top end cut off, or does the whole system shift with the shifted max? -ilan On Jun 9, 6:56*pm, Choppy Warburton wrote: I've always used the old 220 - age formula to calculate MHR. * *Based on my age it would be 170 and I've been training by that standard for some time now. Last night I got ****ed at this guy trying to ride faster than me and broke my training pace for several 3 minute intervals. *I thought I saw 179 on the HRM but actually had valid periods of 185-186 during these efforts. Being faster is normally the best revenge but finding out my MHR is 16 years younger than I am felt even better. This page says I have the heart of a 30 yr old. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm So I am feeling really good about that. Anyone else have some input on this subject? *Thanks |
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