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Anyone got the scoop on why the Pro/1 and Cat 2 road races were
neutralized yesterday? The online race communique doesn't go into any
details.

On Mar 14, 8:52*am, Scott wrote:
Anyone got the scoop on why the Pro/1 and Cat 2 road races were
neutralized yesterday? *The online race communique doesn't go into any
details.

dumbass,

yellow line obviously.

On Mar 14, 12:02*pm, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 14, 8:52*am, Scott wrote:

Anyone got the scoop on why the Pro/1 and Cat 2 road races were
neutralized yesterday? *The online race communique doesn't go into any
details.

dumbass,

yellow line obviously.

Not so obvious. That was my first guess, but the communique mentions
the issue of possibly taking the finishing order from the 1km marker,
so my guess is something went haywire at the finish line itself.
Perhaps they ran into traffic control issues?

On Mar 14, 12:02*pm, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Mar 14, 8:52*am, Scott wrote:

Anyone got the scoop on why the Pro/1 and Cat 2 road races were
neutralized yesterday? *The online race communique doesn't go into any
details.

dumbass,

yellow line obviously.

Well, Velosnooze finally covered the incident, seems an accident in an
earlier event clogged things up and they couldn't get the course
cleared for the Pro/1 or Cat 2 races.

However, it does speak to the craziness of some promoters. Who puts
the finish line for anything other than a pro race at the bottom of a
1km descent, especially when there's a perfectly good uphill finish
about 2 miles earlier?

On Mar 14, 6:02*pm, Scott wrote:
On Mar 14, 12:02*pm, Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Mar 14, 8:52*am, Scott wrote:

Anyone got the scoop on why the Pro/1 and Cat 2 road races were
neutralized yesterday? *The online race communique doesn't go into any
details.

dumbass,

yellow line obviously.

Well, Velosnooze finally covered the incident, seems an accident in an
earlier event clogged things up and they couldn't get the course
cleared for the Pro/1 or Cat 2 races.

However, it does speak to the craziness of some promoters. *Who puts
the finish line for anything other than a pro race at the bottom of a
1km descent, especially when there's a perfectly good uphill finish
about 2 miles earlier?

Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.
No surprise that the cat 4s had problems with that finish.

"Scott" wrote in message
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Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.




Soooooo dumb. Especially since they've already had a fatality at that race.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:


Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.
No surprise that the cat 4s had problems with that finish.

What the hell was the CR doing before the race? That not only makes
for a bad finish, it makes the whole officiating of the finish that
much harder. OTOH, putting the finish line at the top of a 15% grade
and you can take the finishers down in long hand with no camera and
hand the list to the last racer across to post on the bulletin
board...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:

Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.
No surprise that the cat 4s had problems with that finish.

What the hell was the CR doing before the race? That not only makes
for a bad finish, it makes the whole officiating of the finish that
much harder. OTOH, putting the finish line at the top of a 15% grade
and you can take the finishers down in long hand with no camera and
hand the list to the last racer across to post on the bulletin
board...

http://www.tucsonbicycleclassic.com/...unique-2v2.pdf

Interesting reading.

Fred Flintstein

wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:

Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.
No surprise that the cat 4s had problems with that finish.

What the hell was the CR doing before the race? That not only makes
for a bad finish, it makes the whole officiating of the finish that
much harder. OTOH, putting the finish line at the top of a 15% grade
and you can take the finishers down in long hand with no camera and
hand the list to the last racer across to post on the bulletin
board...

I was involved in the planning for a race that had inline skate
events along with the bike races. The event organizer had hired
a chip timer, and had forgotten where the finish line was supposed
to go. So she asked the skaters who told her to give them the
longest finishing straight possible, set the finish up right in
front of the hay bales closing the road at the first turn.

When I arrived I immediately noticed that riders would be sprinting
into hay bales. When I brought that up with the timer he said
that he set it up where he was told and it'd take two hours to
move the mats. Which would totally hose the road closure time
frame.

We ended up moving the hay bales which allowed riders to sprint
into a road that was empty since it didn't go anywhere anymore
because of the race. The timer declared that he would never
work another USAC race again, which the crew that officiated the
race considered to be an acceptable result.

Fred Flintstein

On Mar 15, 8:53*am, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote:

Just spoke with a friend who was riding in the cat 2 race, and from
the description of the finish line area as he explained it, they put
the finish line in a new spot this year in what was arguably the worst
spot on practically the entire loop. *He (my friend) was in the
breakaway and sprinting for bonus points on one of the laps and topped
out at over 50mph due to the severity of the downhill at that point.
No surprise that the cat 4s had problems with that finish.

What the hell was the CR doing before the race? That not only makes
for a bad finish, it makes the whole officiating of the finish that
much harder. OTOH, putting the finish line at the top of a 15% grade
and you can take the finishers down in long hand with no camera and
hand the list to the last racer across to post on the bulletin
board...

http://www.tucsonbicycleclassic.com/...2010/02/TBC-Co...

Interesting reading.

Fred Flintstein

What specifically do you find 'interesting'?