Watched Breaking Away for the first time in 25+ years

Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

Thanks

On Apr 17, 10:14*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

*I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

No - no you're not. I needed two links to put it together, but...

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

you're right on the money.

Track length and race distance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_500

And records:
http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...k-records.html

R

On Apr 18, 4:32*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Apr 17, 10:14*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

*I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

No - no you're not. *I needed two links to put it together, but...

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

you're right on the money.

Track length and race distance:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_500

And records:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...k-records.html

R

It turns out the race is skewed so that no good riders can
participate:

"Any rider who has held, presently holds, or will hold a United States
Cycling
Federation Category I or II license prior to race day shall be deemed
ineligible for the Little 500
®", from the rules page 21:
http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...m%20Manual.pdf

If I recall correctly, this rule was instituted by jealous mediocre
riders to prevent actual talented riders from stealing the spotlight.
In particular, this implies that the Breaking Away scenario has not
been possible for at least 20 years.

-ilan

On Apr 18, 10:02*am, ilan wrote:
On Apr 18, 4:32*am, RicodJour wrote:









On Apr 17, 10:14*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

*I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

No - no you're not. *I needed two links to put it together, but...

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

you're right on the money.

Track length and race distance:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_500

And records:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...k-records.html

R

It turns out the race is skewed so that no good riders can
participate:

"Any rider who has held, presently holds, or will hold a United States
Cycling
Federation Category I or II license prior to race day shall be deemed
ineligible for the Little 500
®", from the rules page 21:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...0Little%20500%...

If I recall correctly, this rule was instituted by jealous mediocre
riders to prevent actual talented riders from stealing the spotlight.
In particular, this implies that the Breaking Away scenario has not
been possible for at least 20 years.

-ilan

It turns out that they now do allow Cat II, but only if the rider
entered the university without any cycling experience, and
participated in the Little 500 twice, and then can participate just
one more time. Confusing, but probably because people had to actually
do USCF racing to prepare for the race and would get upgraded to II
against their will and be found ineligible. More evidence of the
event's stupidity.

-ilan

-ilan

ilan wrote:
It turns out the race is skewed so that no good riders can
participate:

"Any rider who has held, presently holds, or will hold a United States
Cycling
Federation Category I or II license prior to race day shall be deemed
ineligible for the Little 500
®", from the rules page 21:
http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...m%20Manual.pdf

If I recall correctly, this rule was instituted by jealous mediocre

Next thing fatty masters races will have a low weight limit on participants.

On Apr 18, 1:02*am, ilan wrote:
On Apr 18, 4:32*am, RicodJour wrote:





On Apr 17, 10:14*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

*I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

No - no you're not. *I needed two links to put it together, but...

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

you're right on the money.

Track length and race distance:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_500

And records:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...k-records.html

R

It turns out the race is skewed so that no good riders can
participate:

"Any rider who has held, presently holds, or will hold a United States
Cycling
Federation Category I or II license prior to race day shall be deemed
ineligible for the Little 500
®", from the rules page 21:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...0Little%20500%...

If I recall correctly, this rule was instituted by jealous mediocre
riders to prevent actual talented riders from stealing the spotlight.
In particular, this implies that the Breaking Away scenario has not
been possible for at least 20 years.

-ilan- Hide quoted text -

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No, the real talent got filtered by the 2.0 GPA requirement. You think
I'm joking don't you?
Phil H

On Apr 18, 3:02*am, ilan wrote:
On Apr 18, 4:32*am, RicodJour wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:14*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

Still a clever little movie.

Does anyone know how fast they average in the little 500 ?

The race itself or the time trials ?

*I'm pretty good with google but just didn't find anything.

No - no you're not. *I needed two links to put it together, but...

I imagine they'd be lucky to be over 25mph .

you're right on the money.

Track length and race distance:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_500

And records:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...k-records.html

R

It turns out the race is skewed so that no good riders can
participate:

"Any rider who has held, presently holds, or will hold a United States
Cycling
Federation Category I or II license prior to race day shall be deemed
ineligible for the Little 500
®", from the rules page 21:http://www.iusf.indiana.edu/little50...0Little%20500%...

If I recall correctly, this rule was instituted by jealous mediocre
riders to prevent actual talented riders from stealing the spotlight.
In particular, this implies that the Breaking Away scenario has not
been possible for at least 20 years.

-ilan

Dear Ilan:
I didn't see a category listed for "Ringers" on that website but hired
guns were recruited back in the day (and beyond), pledged to frats
(and perhaps sororities, for that matter), and used against the "poor
teams who didn't have any ringers".
Kind of ironic that ringers have been legislated against, in regard to
the characters in the movie, no?

As I and "my people" (cycling teachers) came from the Midwest, I have
heard some of the stories but sadly forgotten the names of the hired
guns. Googling a name or two will probably still find you a recounting
of the recruiting, enrollment at the U, living in the frat house, and
the race(s); it's been years and years but there has been a fair
amount of content on the wwweb.

Curious question: Do you have to hold a trifred license of some kind
to go tri-fred? If so, are the registered t-freds outlawed, also?
--D-y

On 4/18/2011 8:20 AM, --D-y wrote:


Curious question: Do you have to hold a trifred license of some kind
to go tri-fred? If so, are the registered t-freds outlawed, also?


No need to exclude them specifically. The GPA exclusion already handles
that.


Bill




--

William R. Mattil

http://www.celestial-images.com

On Apr 18, 9:44*am, "William R. Mattil"
wrote:
On 4/18/2011 8:20 AM, --D-y wrote:



Curious question: Do you have to hold a trifred license of some kind
to go tri-fred? If so, are the registered t-freds outlawed, also?

No need to exclude them specifically. The GPA exclusion already handles
that.

Cold.
But you're right, and I should have thought of that!
--D-y

given the ****ty eqpt, friction robbing surface and unbanked turns
that don't make you go faster like the banked ones do. Could a single
person win the race? It would be hard I think to ride 2 hours at that
speed without the benefits we're used to. (aero, gears, bottles of
cyctomax - etc)