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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
Case of a texting speeding driver killing a red light jumping cyclist.
http://qurl.com/3sczj -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
On 1 Feb, 16:54, "Simon Mason"
wrote: Case of a texting speeding driver killing a red light jumping cyclist. http://qurl.com/3sczj -- Simon Masonhttp://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ OK, I'll bite. It is the sort of accident of which I have been expecting to see more. Some cyclists may learn something from it, but as the outcomes are so unequal, I doubt that motorists will. Motorists are likely to just note that the initial cause of the accident was the action of the cyclist. To me it shows that Darwinism is running in reverse. |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
as the outcomes are so unequal, I doubt that motorists will. Motorists are likely to just note that the initial cause of the accident was the action of the cyclist. But as a motorist, and a cyclist....that must be most of us surely???.....they would be correct in blaming the cyclist IMHO. When I saw it on the news last night, I was amazed the girl had been treated so harshly...her crime was using a mobile whilst driving....3 points and 60 quid fine. She may not have hit the cyclist had she not been texting, but surely you cant ignore, completely, the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he should, he's still alive. Lessons for me as a cycling/driver ! |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, boulder wrote:
She may not have hit the cyclist had she not been texting, but surely you cant ignore, completely, the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he should, he's still alive. Yeah! I vote we lock his body up for 6 months - that's what these people need, a taste of prison, that'll learn him. And repeat offenders - string em up. Anyone killed twice going through a red light, automatic death penalty I reckon. Twit. -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
Yeah! I vote we lock his body up for 6 months - that's what these people need, a taste of prison, that'll learn him. And repeat offenders - string em up. Anyone killed twice going through a red light, automatic death penalty I reckon. Twit. do be so ridiculous. It would have been enough just to tie his body up for a few days on the traffic lights he ignored. Some people have to try to make light of everything Twit ? Ouch |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
"boulder" wrote in message ... Yeah! I vote we lock his body up for 6 months - that's what these people need, a taste of prison, that'll learn him. And repeat offenders - string em up. Anyone killed twice going through a red light, automatic death penalty I reckon. Twit. do be so ridiculous. It would have been enough just to tie his body up for a few days on the traffic lights he ignored. Some people have to try to make light of everything Twit ? Ouch You make the mistake of confusing the offence of using a hand-held mobile whilst driving with that of causing death by dangerous driving. The woman is not being imprisoned for using the mobile, but for not looking where she was going. All other contributory factors, the mobile use , the red-light jumping, are secondary to this. |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
boulder wrote:
as the outcomes are so unequal, I doubt that motorists will. Motorists are likely to just note that the initial cause of the accident was the action of the cyclist. But as a motorist, and a cyclist....that must be most of us surely???.....they would be correct in blaming the cyclist IMHO. When I saw it on the news last night, I was amazed the girl had been treated so harshly...her crime was using a mobile whilst driving....3 points and 60 quid fine. Look, I agree that hitting the cyclist was unintended, and that the cyclist was breaking the law. The sentence should not be harsher just because a cyclist was where he should not have been and got himself killed. That's a side issue. But texting while driving should mean a severe sentence, whether you hit anyone or not. So should doing 45mph in a 30mph zone. Doing 45mph in a 30mph while texting certainly ought to mean prison. She may not have hit the cyclist had she not been texting, but surely you cant ignore, completely, the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he should, he's still alive. Absolutely. But had she lost control of the car while texting and ploughed through a bus queue at 45mph, there would have been a lot of deaths and they would have been innocent ones. You simply can't have people texting - or phoning - while driving. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time. |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
"boulder" writes:
as the outcomes are so unequal, I doubt that motorists will. Motorists are likely to just note that the initial cause of the accident was the action of the cyclist. But as a motorist, and a cyclist....that must be most of us surely???.....they would be correct in blaming the cyclist IMHO. When I saw it on the news last night, I was amazed the girl had been treated so harshly...her crime was using a mobile whilst driving....3 points and 60 quid fine. She may not have hit the cyclist had she not been texting, but surely you cant ignore, completely, the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he should, he's still alive. Lessons for me as a cycling/driver ! If you kill someone when you're doing something potentially dangerous then that has consequences. Road traffic law is hardly unique in this respect. |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 06:46:14 -0000, boulder wrote:
as the outcomes are so unequal, I doubt that motorists will. Motorists are likely to just note that the initial cause of the accident was the action of the cyclist. But as a motorist, and a cyclist....that must be most of us surely???.....they would be correct in blaming the cyclist IMHO. When I saw it on the news last night, I was amazed the girl had been treated so harshly...her crime was using a mobile whilst driving....3 points and 60 quid fine. Well she was speeding as well. She has also received 3 FPNs for speeding, two of them on the road leading up to the junction. I think that because it was a text message the judge is treating the whole thing more seriously than a phone call as well. She may not have hit the cyclist had she not been texting, but surely you cant ignore, completely, the law breaking cyclist....had he stopped, as he should, he's still alive. Actually he did stop before going through the red - presumably because the junction and approach roads were clear. Still wrong but not quite as reckless as you paint. I also find it disappointing that the Times article on this mentioned the fact that the cyclist wasn't wearing a helmet. -- Andy Leighton = "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ |
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Driver who killed cyclist told to expect jail.
I also find it disappointing that the Times article on this mentioned the fact that the cyclist wasn't wearing a helmet. no, he died of head injuries.. |
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