OT - Failure of Society

On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/20/2011 7:29 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
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Most societies in the non-Western world have a few rich and many poor
with
no middle class at all. As long as America has a strong middle class, we
can
continue mostly free, but once the middle class is destroyed, there is
absolutely nothing to prevent us from descending to Latin American
status.

Being poor and downtrodden has been the lot of most of humanity for most
of
our time on this earth. What else is new?

Pay attention Ed. The rich have been working to destroy the middle class
for as long as both have existed, in all nations and in all times.

The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

Primarily, because one has to be a psychopath to become rich and powerful.

No, they just value wealth and control more than most of us do. The vast
majority of folks are more than satisfied with just a smattering of those
two things. It is a pity that you are not.

Ed Dolan, as usual, widely misses the mark.

Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no pleasure.


I do not envy the psychopathic rich. I wish to remove the parasites
from society, not join them in evil.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to
have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

It has only been within the past hundred years or so that mankind has been
able to enjoy mass wealth throughout a society. The Romans ruled the world,
but the Roman people were as poor as church mice.

Primarily, because one has to be a psychopath to become rich and
powerful.

No, they just value wealth and control more than most of us do. The vast
majority of folks are more than satisfied with just a smattering of those
two things. It is a pity that you are not.

Ed Dolan, as usual, widely misses the mark.

Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no pleasure.

I do not envy the psychopathic rich. I wish to remove the parasites from
society, not join them in evil.

Nope, you envy them. It motivates your every utterance. I ignore them
because they do not matter to me. I am satisfied with a modicum of wealth
and power. Greed and envy is not part of my nature.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 6/22/2011 12:23 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to
have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

It has only been within the past hundred years or so that mankind has been
able to enjoy mass wealth throughout a society. The Romans ruled the world,
but the Roman people were as poor as church mice.

But not the Roman aristocracy.

Of course, empires are expensive to maintain, which is why they have all
failed in relatively short order.

Primarily, because one has to be a psychopath to become rich and
powerful.

No, they just value wealth and control more than most of us do. The vast
majority of folks are more than satisfied with just a smattering of those
two things. It is a pity that you are not.

Ed Dolan, as usual, widely misses the mark.

Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no pleasure.

I do not envy the psychopathic rich. I wish to remove the parasites from
society, not join them in evil.

Nope, you envy them. It motivates your every utterance. I ignore them
because they do not matter to me. I am satisfied with a modicum of wealth
and power. Greed and envy is not part of my nature.

Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/22/2011 12:23 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T?m Sherm?n " wrote in
message
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On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just
as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to
have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in
Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

It has only been within the past hundred years or so that mankind has
been
able to enjoy mass wealth throughout a society. The Romans ruled the
world,
but the Roman people were as poor as church mice.

But not the Roman aristocracy.

Rulers in all societies everywhere have always enjoyed being separated from
the masses. My point is that it is only within the past few hundred years or
so with the advent of democratic republics in the West that the masses have
been able to enjoy some of the wealth too.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
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Tºm Shermªn °_° " considered
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Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

Mr. Tom Sherman is a conspiracy nut. He falls for everything that even hints
of it. He seems not to recognize the inherent flaws in our human nature. He
most likely does not believe in original sin either.

My humor is basically parody. I wish I could be witty, but it is beyond me,
as it is beyond 99% of mankind. That is why it should never be attempted by
anyone other than an Oscar Wilde type. In any event, wit is wasted on these
newsgroups.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 6/24/2011 11:20 AM, Phil W Lee wrote:
[...]
Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.
The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000.0

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 6/24/2011 5:07 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"Phil W wrote in message
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T�m Sherm�n " considered
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Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

Mr. Tom Sherman is a conspiracy nut. He falls for everything that even hints
of it.

The truly deluded are those who buy the mainstream narrative, despite
the history of almost universal lying by higher level politicians and
political appointees, and propagandizing by the corporate owned press.

"American Exceptionalism" and "Shining City on a Hill" my arse.

He seems not to recognize the inherent flaws in our human nature. He
most likely does not believe in original sin either.

My humor is basically parody. I wish I could be witty, but it is beyond me,
as it is beyond 99% of mankind. That is why it should never be attempted by
anyone other than an Oscar Wilde type. In any event, wit is wasted on these
newsgroups.

Mr. Ed Dolan is in the Federal Witless Protection Program.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/24/2011 5:07 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"Phil W wrote in message
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T?m Sherm?n " considered
[...]
Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

Mr. Tom Sherman is a conspiracy nut. He falls for everything that even
hints
of it.

The truly deluded are those who buy the mainstream narrative, despite the
history of almost universal lying by higher level politicians and
political appointees, and propagandizing by the corporate owned press.

You are describing the mainstream liberal mass media of course, something I
never pay the slightest attention to except to deride it.

"American Exceptionalism" and "Shining City on a Hill" my arse.

Reagan was a naive bumpkin in many ways. What the hell do you expect of
anyone from Hollywood?

He seems not to recognize the inherent flaws in our human nature. He
most likely does not believe in original sin either.

My humor is basically parody. I wish I could be witty, but it is beyond
me,
as it is beyond 99% of mankind. That is why it should never be attempted
by
anyone other than an Oscar Wilde type. In any event, wit is wasted on
these
newsgroups.

Mr. Ed Dolan is in the Federal Witless Protection Program.

I got it, but no one else will.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
...
On 6/24/2011 11:20 AM, Phil W Lee wrote:
[...]
Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000.0

Mr. Tom Sherman does nothing but troll and is basically a conspiracy nut (a
form of insanity). His slight veneer of intellectualism may fool the rest of
you, but it does not fool Ed Dolan the Great. He is a gnat and I am the 800
pound gorilla in the room!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 6/25/2011 4:21 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/24/2011 5:07 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"Phil W wrote in message
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T?m Sherm?n " considered
[...]
Mr. Ed Dolan is either insane or trolling here.

The two are not mutually exclusive, as his posting history clearly
demonstrates.

Mr. Tom Sherman is a conspiracy nut. He falls for everything that even
hints
of it.

The truly deluded are those who buy the mainstream narrative, despite the
history of almost universal lying by higher level politicians and
political appointees, and propagandizing by the corporate owned press.

You are describing the mainstream liberal mass media of course, something I
never pay the slightest attention to except to deride it.

Mr. Ed Dolan is either an fool or a troll.

"American Exceptionalism" and "Shining City on a Hill" my arse.

Reagan was a naive bumpkin in many ways. What the hell do you expect of
anyone from Hollywood?

These myths pre-date Reagan.

He seems not to recognize the inherent flaws in our human nature. He
most likely does not believe in original sin either.

My humor is basically parody. I wish I could be witty, but it is beyond
me,
as it is beyond 99% of mankind. That is why it should never be attempted
by
anyone other than an Oscar Wilde type. In any event, wit is wasted on
these
newsgroups.

Mr. Ed Dolan is in the Federal Witless Protection Program.

I got it, but no one else will.

That is because you are in the program.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.