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On 9/7/2018 12:38 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-07 10:20, AMuzi wrote: On 9/7/2018 12:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-04 17:15, AMuzi wrote: On 9/4/2018 6:10 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-03 16:10, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:45:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-02 16:36, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 08:02:04 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-01 21:30, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:03:16 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 11:06, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:36:09 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 08:51, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:51 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: snip [...] [...] (BTW, in front of my office building. I have to dodge those things). We also have private buses up to the mountains for skiing and airport shuttle buses, etc. Those are what could be construed as cherry-picking. What I meant was a full blown system that includes not so lucrative routes all the way to Outer Podunk. A sysme that enables most residents not to even have a car. Not going to happen in a market economy. The fares would be too high for either local users who have to subsidize rural users or for rural users who have to pay actual cost plus ROI. There might be a way to do this by selling losses to investors -- running the system as a tax shelter, but I'll let the tax accountants figure that one out. The bottom line is that barriers to entry are not that high and certainly lower than in Germany, and if mass transit could be done profitably in a large US urban area by private business, it would be. People are always looking for a way to make a buck. It might work elsewhere in a dense European city, but it has been tried and failed here in PDX. The German example I brought was from an area much less densely populated than Portland. AFAIK they even operate ferries in the system. Germany is a comparatively small country with a large population. Distances are not so great there compared to many areas of the USA. As I wrote, I picked an example (on purpose) from an area that is less densely populated than where I live now. Again, if Germany is so gosh darn great, then why have so many Germans emigrated? Because it wasn't always great and still isn't in many aspects. One cannot generalize. For example, public transportation is clearly better there but bike paths and even more so MTB trails are definitely not. Before moving to the US I would have never dreamed that bicycle infrastructure could become better here than in Germany but it has. Agencies in the various contries could learn from each other but there is often a lack of willingness. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I wonder what would happen if to create a new bicycling infrastructure or bus/rail link that would benefit mainly bicyclists, if bicyclists were told they alone would have to pay for it? Cheers Many years ago Riverside, California attempted to "register" bicycles. The idea was to have a record of who owned what bicycle which they hoped might reduce bicycle theft. If I remember correctly it cost the owner 50 cents and he got a nice little "number plate" to attach to his bicycle. You never heard as much moaning and groaning, "You mean I gotta pay 50 cents to ride a bicycle." The city gave up on the scheme. Apparently cyclists are cheap. I doubt that, and they should not make it mandatory anyhow. If they made it mandatory then Californians can already smell it that pretty soon the authorities would start to tax bicycles per year and they don't want that. If there is any way to extract yet another tax from the people CA will eventually do that. But if you don't pay your taxes who is going to support the homeless, and the illegal immigrants, and the bike paths and, and, and. If you are going to have socialism someone's got to pay for it. We already pay among the highest taxes in the country. That's enough taxes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I see, you want bike paths, racks on buses, and all the other free goodies provided by the state, but you don't want to pay for them. See above. We already paid for them. [...] You California taxpayers paid for extravagant pensions, the $80billion choo choo which doesn't run, homeless, welfare and illegal services, fire fighting of forests which should have been logged and so on. That's the price for a leftist government. Like it always end up. And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. [...] Every other government program is profligate and counterproductive so why should bike racks on buses be any different? Maybe so but that does require us to speak up. As taxpayers we have a stake in this, our money is in this and, therefore, we have a say in this. I can't understand people who think otherwise. Speak up to whom? The administrative State doesn't care. You didn't elect them and you can't fire them so rant on if it makes you feel any better. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 9/7/2018 1:03 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. I've seen no evidence except your assertions for the idea that your style of bike is common among those who use buses. I rarely trust your assertions. So do you have any evidence? And regarding roads and Model Ts: ISTM your situation is like that of a 1930s guy who built or bought something on this style https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/2...specifications then complained the roads weren't suitable for its use. Don't buy something out of spec for the infrastructure you want to use, then complain about the infrastructure. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 10:46:50 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
Snipped BTW, I haven't tried yet but it is likely that even my 1982 road bike won't fit properly because it's less than 3" shorter than my MTB which was sticking out more than that. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ GOOD GRIEF! My 1980's era ROAD and MTBs both fit our STANDARD bicycle racks on t he buses without any problem whatsoever. Cheers |
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On 2018-09-07 12:18, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/7/2018 1:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. I've seen no evidence except your assertions for the idea that your style of bike is common among those who use buses. I rarely trust your assertions. So do you have any evidence? If you had followed the bike market at least a little you could have answered that question yourself: https://www.bicycleretailer.com/stud...egories-stores Quote "Twenty-niners now account for 41 percent of dollars sold in mountain bikes at IBDs". And regarding roads and Model Ts: ISTM your situation is like that of a 1930s guy who built or bought something on this style https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/2...specifications then complained the roads weren't suitable for its use. Don't buy something out of spec for the infrastructure you want to use, then complain about the infrastructure. You don't seem to even know what spec is these days. Hint: We are in the 21st century now. Yesterday I rode light rail back to where our truck was parked. My old 1982 road bike was riding next to a 26" of a friend which would barely fit the bus rack. My road bike is longer! Any questions? Luckily light rail allows to take bikes on board so it doesn't matter. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2018-09-07 12:04, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/7/2018 12:38 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 10:20, AMuzi wrote: On 9/7/2018 12:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-04 17:15, AMuzi wrote: On 9/4/2018 6:10 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-03 16:10, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:45:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-02 16:36, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 08:02:04 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-01 21:30, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:03:16 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 11:06, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:36:09 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 08:51, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:51 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: snip [...] [...] (BTW, in front of my office building. I have to dodge those things). We also have private buses up to the mountains for skiing and airport shuttle buses, etc. Those are what could be construed as cherry-picking. What I meant was a full blown system that includes not so lucrative routes all the way to Outer Podunk. A sysme that enables most residents not to even have a car. Not going to happen in a market economy. The fares would be too high for either local users who have to subsidize rural users or for rural users who have to pay actual cost plus ROI. There might be a way to do this by selling losses to investors -- running the system as a tax shelter, but I'll let the tax accountants figure that one out. The bottom line is that barriers to entry are not that high and certainly lower than in Germany, and if mass transit could be done profitably in a large US urban area by private business, it would be. People are always looking for a way to make a buck. It might work elsewhere in a dense European city, but it has been tried and failed here in PDX. The German example I brought was from an area much less densely populated than Portland. AFAIK they even operate ferries in the system. Germany is a comparatively small country with a large population. Distances are not so great there compared to many areas of the USA. As I wrote, I picked an example (on purpose) from an area that is less densely populated than where I live now. Again, if Germany is so gosh darn great, then why have so many Germans emigrated? Because it wasn't always great and still isn't in many aspects. One cannot generalize. For example, public transportation is clearly better there but bike paths and even more so MTB trails are definitely not. Before moving to the US I would have never dreamed that bicycle infrastructure could become better here than in Germany but it has. Agencies in the various contries could learn from each other but there is often a lack of willingness. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I wonder what would happen if to create a new bicycling infrastructure or bus/rail link that would benefit mainly bicyclists, if bicyclists were told they alone would have to pay for it? Cheers Many years ago Riverside, California attempted to "register" bicycles. The idea was to have a record of who owned what bicycle which they hoped might reduce bicycle theft. If I remember correctly it cost the owner 50 cents and he got a nice little "number plate" to attach to his bicycle. You never heard as much moaning and groaning, "You mean I gotta pay 50 cents to ride a bicycle." The city gave up on the scheme. Apparently cyclists are cheap. I doubt that, and they should not make it mandatory anyhow. If they made it mandatory then Californians can already smell it that pretty soon the authorities would start to tax bicycles per year and they don't want that. If there is any way to extract yet another tax from the people CA will eventually do that. But if you don't pay your taxes who is going to support the homeless, and the illegal immigrants, and the bike paths and, and, and. If you are going to have socialism someone's got to pay for it. We already pay among the highest taxes in the country. That's enough taxes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I see, you want bike paths, racks on buses, and all the other free goodies provided by the state, but you don't want to pay for them. See above. We already paid for them. [...] You California taxpayers paid for extravagant pensions, the $80billion choo choo which doesn't run, homeless, welfare and illegal services, fire fighting of forests which should have been logged and so on. That's the price for a leftist government. Like it always end up. And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. [...] Every other government program is profligate and counterproductive so why should bike racks on buses be any different? Maybe so but that does require us to speak up. As taxpayers we have a stake in this, our money is in this and, therefore, we have a say in this. I can't understand people who think otherwise. Speak up to whom? The transit agency. ... The administrative State doesn't care. You didn't elect them and you can't fire them so rant on if it makes you feel any better. As I wrote earlier they did care. They better do because we the taxpayers got more options. This option is nasty and IMO should be used as a last resort but it has produced amazing results: https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/contact-kurtis/ The California Medical Board and the DMV probably still has people shaking in their boots when they hear the name Kurtis Ming. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2018-09-07 12:38, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 10:46:50 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Snipped BTW, I haven't tried yet but it is likely that even my 1982 road bike won't fit properly because it's less than 3" shorter than my MTB which was sticking out more than that. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ GOOD GRIEF! My 1980's era ROAD and MTBs both fit our STANDARD bicycle racks on t he buses without any problem whatsoever. There are lots of people in this world who are taller than 6ft and need large frame sizes. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 12:04:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/7/2018 12:38 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 10:20, AMuzi wrote: On 9/7/2018 12:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-04 17:15, AMuzi wrote: On 9/4/2018 6:10 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-03 16:10, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:45:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-02 16:36, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 08:02:04 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-01 21:30, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:03:16 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 11:06, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:36:09 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 08:51, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:51 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: snip [...] [...] (BTW, in front of my office building. I have to dodge those things). We also have private buses up to the mountains for skiing and airport shuttle buses, etc. Those are what could be construed as cherry-picking. What I meant was a full blown system that includes not so lucrative routes all the way to Outer Podunk. A sysme that enables most residents not to even have a car. Not going to happen in a market economy. The fares would be too high for either local users who have to subsidize rural users or for rural users who have to pay actual cost plus ROI. There might be a way to do this by selling losses to investors -- running the system as a tax shelter, but I'll let the tax accountants figure that one out. The bottom line is that barriers to entry are not that high and certainly lower than in Germany, and if mass transit could be done profitably in a large US urban area by private business, it would be. People are always looking for a way to make a buck. It might work elsewhere in a dense European city, but it has been tried and failed here in PDX. The German example I brought was from an area much less densely populated than Portland. AFAIK they even operate ferries in the system. Germany is a comparatively small country with a large population. Distances are not so great there compared to many areas of the USA. As I wrote, I picked an example (on purpose) from an area that is less densely populated than where I live now. Again, if Germany is so gosh darn great, then why have so many Germans emigrated? Because it wasn't always great and still isn't in many aspects. One cannot generalize. For example, public transportation is clearly better there but bike paths and even more so MTB trails are definitely not. Before moving to the US I would have never dreamed that bicycle infrastructure could become better here than in Germany but it has. Agencies in the various contries could learn from each other but there is often a lack of willingness. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I wonder what would happen if to create a new bicycling infrastructure or bus/rail link that would benefit mainly bicyclists, if bicyclists were told they alone would have to pay for it? Cheers Many years ago Riverside, California attempted to "register" bicycles. The idea was to have a record of who owned what bicycle which they hoped might reduce bicycle theft. If I remember correctly it cost the owner 50 cents and he got a nice little "number plate" to attach to his bicycle. You never heard as much moaning and groaning, "You mean I gotta pay 50 cents to ride a bicycle." The city gave up on the scheme. Apparently cyclists are cheap. I doubt that, and they should not make it mandatory anyhow. If they made it mandatory then Californians can already smell it that pretty soon the authorities would start to tax bicycles per year and they don't want that. If there is any way to extract yet another tax from the people CA will eventually do that. But if you don't pay your taxes who is going to support the homeless, and the illegal immigrants, and the bike paths and, and, and. If you are going to have socialism someone's got to pay for it. We already pay among the highest taxes in the country. That's enough taxes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I see, you want bike paths, racks on buses, and all the other free goodies provided by the state, but you don't want to pay for them. See above. We already paid for them. [...] You California taxpayers paid for extravagant pensions, the $80billion choo choo which doesn't run, homeless, welfare and illegal services, fire fighting of forests which should have been logged and so on. That's the price for a leftist government. Like it always end up. And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. [...] Every other government program is profligate and counterproductive so why should bike racks on buses be any different? Maybe so but that does require us to speak up. As taxpayers we have a stake in this, our money is in this and, therefore, we have a say in this. I can't understand people who think otherwise. Speak up to whom? The administrative State doesn't care. You didn't elect them and you can't fire them so rant on if it makes you feel any better. Oddly enough, the Bicycle Transportation Alliance (BTA) beat the deep administrative state and got racks on buses in Portland. I think we were among the first. From Wikipedia: Bicycle Transportation Alliance See also: Bicycle Transportation Alliance The bicycle revolution in Portland started taking off with the founding of the Bicycle Transportation Alliance in November 1990. The first project of the BTA was persuading TriMet, the regional transit agency, to carry bicycles on its buses and light rail trains. BTA gathered over 7000 signatures and the support of numerous local city councils, prompting TriMet to conduct a one-year trial on a few bus lines. After a year of no significant problems and an increase in transit ridership by cyclists, TriMet instituted the first 100% bicycle accessible major transit system in the U.S. The Bicycle Transportation Alliance grew into one of the most effective cycling advocacy organizations in the U.S. The BTA focused on making major streets safe for cycling by advocating bicycle lanes, improvements to all seven pedestrian-accessible Willamette River bridges linking the downtown to the rest of the city and for safe, secure bicycle parking. In 1992, BTA successfully sued the City of Portland under ORS 366.514, the Oregon "Bicycle Bill," forcing the City to provide bicycle facilities as part of all projects. The City appealed this to the Oregon Court of Appeals which upheld the BTA's position, solidifying the responsibility of all governments in Oregon to provide safe bicycle and pedestrian facilities in all projects.[16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclin...rtland,_Oregon The BTA was supported in large part by Jay Graves and his family, the former owners of the Bicycle Gallery stores. He was on Board after me or over-lapping slightly. I can barely remember yesterday let alone the early 1990s. Step up Andrew! Bike shop owners lead the way! And in fact, the Portland administrative state went on to create Alta Design, the death star of Krygowski-loathed bicycle-facility design. Its founder, Mia Birk, was a mere functionary at PBOT who developed her infrastructure chops going mano-a-mano with us bicycle do-gooders. Alas, now its just dopes on electric scooters. They don't know the history -- the suffering our people have endured since coming to Portland on boats from the great Cyclaspora, urining to be free. Remember the past! Stay strong my brothers and sisters! -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 3:43:43 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-07 12:38, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 10:46:50 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Snipped BTW, I haven't tried yet but it is likely that even my 1982 road bike won't fit properly because it's less than 3" shorter than my MTB which was sticking out more than that. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ GOOD GRIEF! My 1980's era ROAD and MTBs both fit our STANDARD bicycle racks on t he buses without any problem whatsoever. There are lots of people in this world who are taller than 6ft and need large frame sizes. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ So how frikkin big is your 1982 road bike? It must be HUGE if it doesn't fit in a STANDARD bus bicycle rack. Cheers |
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On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 12:42:31 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-09-07 12:04, AMuzi wrote: On 9/7/2018 12:38 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 10:20, AMuzi wrote: On 9/7/2018 12:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:52:38 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-04 17:15, AMuzi wrote: On 9/4/2018 6:10 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-03 16:10, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:45:01 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-02 16:36, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 08:02:04 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-01 21:30, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:03:16 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 11:06, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:36:09 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-31 08:51, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:51 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: snip [...] [...] (BTW, in front of my office building. I have to dodge those things). We also have private buses up to the mountains for skiing and airport shuttle buses, etc. Those are what could be construed as cherry-picking. What I meant was a full blown system that includes not so lucrative routes all the way to Outer Podunk. A sysme that enables most residents not to even have a car. Not going to happen in a market economy. The fares would be too high for either local users who have to subsidize rural users or for rural users who have to pay actual cost plus ROI. There might be a way to do this by selling losses to investors -- running the system as a tax shelter, but I'll let the tax accountants figure that one out. The bottom line is that barriers to entry are not that high and certainly lower than in Germany, and if mass transit could be done profitably in a large US urban area by private business, it would be. People are always looking for a way to make a buck. It might work elsewhere in a dense European city, but it has been tried and failed here in PDX. The German example I brought was from an area much less densely populated than Portland. AFAIK they even operate ferries in the system. Germany is a comparatively small country with a large population. Distances are not so great there compared to many areas of the USA. As I wrote, I picked an example (on purpose) from an area that is less densely populated than where I live now. Again, if Germany is so gosh darn great, then why have so many Germans emigrated? Because it wasn't always great and still isn't in many aspects. One cannot generalize. For example, public transportation is clearly better there but bike paths and even more so MTB trails are definitely not. Before moving to the US I would have never dreamed that bicycle infrastructure could become better here than in Germany but it has. Agencies in the various contries could learn from each other but there is often a lack of willingness. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I wonder what would happen if to create a new bicycling infrastructure or bus/rail link that would benefit mainly bicyclists, if bicyclists were told they alone would have to pay for it? Cheers Many years ago Riverside, California attempted to "register" bicycles. The idea was to have a record of who owned what bicycle which they hoped might reduce bicycle theft. If I remember correctly it cost the owner 50 cents and he got a nice little "number plate" to attach to his bicycle. You never heard as much moaning and groaning, "You mean I gotta pay 50 cents to ride a bicycle." The city gave up on the scheme. Apparently cyclists are cheap. I doubt that, and they should not make it mandatory anyhow. If they made it mandatory then Californians can already smell it that pretty soon the authorities would start to tax bicycles per year and they don't want that. If there is any way to extract yet another tax from the people CA will eventually do that. But if you don't pay your taxes who is going to support the homeless, and the illegal immigrants, and the bike paths and, and, and. If you are going to have socialism someone's got to pay for it. We already pay among the highest taxes in the country. That's enough taxes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I see, you want bike paths, racks on buses, and all the other free goodies provided by the state, but you don't want to pay for them. See above. We already paid for them. [...] You California taxpayers paid for extravagant pensions, the $80billion choo choo which doesn't run, homeless, welfare and illegal services, fire fighting of forests which should have been logged and so on. That's the price for a leftist government. Like it always end up. And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. [...] Every other government program is profligate and counterproductive so why should bike racks on buses be any different? Maybe so but that does require us to speak up. As taxpayers we have a stake in this, our money is in this and, therefore, we have a say in this. I can't understand people who think otherwise. Speak up to whom? The transit agency. ... The administrative State doesn't care. You didn't elect them and you can't fire them so rant on if it makes you feel any better. As I wrote earlier they did care. They better do because we the taxpayers got more options. This option is nasty and IMO should be used as a last resort but it has produced amazing results: https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/contact-kurtis/ The California Medical Board and the DMV probably still has people shaking in their boots when they hear the name Kurtis Ming. I mean just hearing the name Kurtis Ming makes me shiver all over! Is this the guy?: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3771/...83ea04ae_z.jpg How about instead of whining incessantly, you join a local bicycle advocacy group. Some TV complaint desk journalist is not going to change transit district purchasing policies with a phone call. What is Kurtis going to do? Shame them into re-tooling the public contracting laws or existing public contracts? If I were the public transit agency, I would foil the evil Kurtis Ming with a statement along the lines of: "At the request of a majority of our tax-paying transit district residents, we will re-fit all the buses so failing Joerg Schulze-Clewing, German immigrant resident of the fake golf-course community Cameron Park and proprietor of 19th century technology company Analog Consultants can haul his over-sized mountain bike home from recreational trails because he is too weak or lazy to ride home. It will cost $125,000 which we would pass along to customers (including those who were born and raised in the USA and who use modern digital devices), in the form of doubled fares. If you are in favor or re-fitting the buses with new racks, please call 1-800-dum-rack or contact us online at www.stealyourmoneyforstupidracks.org. " I learned recently that its legal to do this sort of thing and probably required these days to win any political fight. It's not like Kurtis Ming is going to whip up a mob of pitchfork and torch carrying townsfolk to get you a bigger bike rack on the local bus. You're not the Rosa Parks of bike racks. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 9/7/2018 2:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/7/2018 1:03 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-09-07 08:04, jbeattie wrote: And yet you expect the government to provide you with special bike racks on buses. No, bike racks that actually work with contemporary bikes that are commonly used in this area. Just like we now have roads that accommodate vehicles wider than a Ford Model T. It's that simple. I've seen no evidence except your assertions for the idea that your style of bike is common among those who use buses. I rarely trust your assertions. So do you have any evidence? And regarding roads and Model Ts: ISTM your situation is like that of a 1930s guy who built or bought something on this style https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/07/2...specifications then complained the roads weren't suitable for its use. Don't buy something out of spec for the infrastructure you want to use, then complain about the infrastructure. Roads not suitable to that ugly 3 wheel monstrosity? How so? I see them (and copies) all summer around here. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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