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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw
cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On Oct 17, 1:10*pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. No -- no more than car surfing is the result of non-enforcement of the traffic laws. All that stuff is the result of idiocy and hubris, which is a very dangerous mix.-- Jay Beattie. |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. A lot of that action I wouldn't defend entirely, but I didn't see much if any endangerment or even impeding anyone else's right-of-way. Maybe some startled cagers here and there. They could probably use it, though - keeps 'em awake :-) |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/17/2010 4:10 PM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. Yeah, it's Boston, mostly the financial district that I've spoken of. The rider was a bike messenger. Not an example of a typical Boston cyclist, nor probably a typical messenger, nor even probably a typical day for him. Sorry. |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/17/2010 04:10 PM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. looks pretty much like typical road cyclist behavior to me. other than the cyclist actually stopping when he charged an intersection on red and realized that there was cross traffic (I guess Bostonians are less accomodating than drivers around here.) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/17/2010 5:52 PM, Peter Cole wrote:
On 10/17/2010 4:10 PM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. Yeah, it's Boston, mostly the financial district that I've spoken of. As in: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Boston,+MA&sl l=41.921617,-91.634623&sspn=0.007759,0.021136&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear =Boston,+Suffolk,+Massachusetts&ll=42.356831,-71.055236&spn=0.007706,0.021136&t=h&z=16. [1] The rider was a bike messenger. And/or a film maker: http://www.digave.com/video.html - yes the (in)famous Lucas Brunelle. Not an example of a typical Boston cyclist, nor probably a typical messenger, nor even probably a typical day for him. Sorry. But the behavior some would legalize? [1] Will Jobst Brandt suggest http://tinyurl.com/ [2]? [2] http://preview.tinyurl.com/24z75nu or http://tinyurl.com/24z75nu for the brave. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On Oct 17, 1:10*pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. I watched the first 2.5 minutes, then I got bored of waiting for something to provoke self-righteous indignation. He even used a hand signal in the first few seconds of the video, before he turns left around the cop car. Seriously, have you witnessed Boston road manners? What I saw in the video was pattycake compared to Boston driving. Once in downtown Boston I saw a driver back his car up a full block the wrong way up a one way street, at regular driving speed. I guess since the car was facing the correct direction he figured it was okay. Ben |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/18/2010 1:58 AM, bjw aka Ben Weiner wrote:
On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: Seehttp://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. I watched the first 2.5 minutes, then I got bored of waiting for something to provoke self-righteous indignation. He even used a hand signal in the first few seconds of the video, before he turns left around the cop car. Seriously, have you witnessed Boston road manners? Just because a lot of people act a certain way does not make it moral. What I saw in the video was pattycake compared to Boston driving. Once in downtown Boston I saw a driver back his car up a full block the wrong way up a one way street, at regular driving speed. I guess since the car was facing the correct direction he figured it was okay. Can we give Boston [1] back to the British? [1] http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=riot+boston+red+sox&aq=f. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/17/2010 7:28 PM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
On 10/17/2010 5:52 PM, Peter Cole wrote: On 10/17/2010 4:10 PM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: See http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. Yeah, it's Boston, mostly the financial district that I've spoken of. As in: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Boston,+MA&sl l=41.921617,-91.634623&sspn=0.007759,0.021136&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear =Boston,+Suffolk,+Massachusetts&ll=42.356831,-71.055236&spn=0.007706,0.021136&t=h&z=16. [1] The rider was a bike messenger. And/or a film maker: http://www.digave.com/video.html - yes the (in)famous Lucas Brunelle. Not an example of a typical Boston cyclist, nor probably a typical messenger, nor even probably a typical day for him. Sorry. But the behavior some would legalize? Nobody I know of. [1] Will Jobst Brandt suggest http://tinyurl.com/ [2]? [2] http://preview.tinyurl.com/24z75nu or http://tinyurl.com/24z75nu for the brave. ???? |
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Scofflaw Cyclists in Boston
On 10/18/2010 4:25 AM, Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
On 10/18/2010 1:58 AM, bjw aka Ben Weiner wrote: On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: Seehttp://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/100870/505039 for scofflaw cyclists breaking about every traffic law possible - the end result of no enforcement of the rules of the road on cyclists? Ignore the title that says "NYC" - unless buses in NYC advertise Boston radio stations. I watched the first 2.5 minutes, then I got bored of waiting for something to provoke self-righteous indignation. He even used a hand signal in the first few seconds of the video, before he turns left around the cop car. Seriously, have you witnessed Boston road manners? Just because a lot of people act a certain way does not make it moral. "Morality" is a complex subject. By the following theory, you'd be classified as a conservative, me, a liberal. Maybe that explains why you like Iowa and I like Massachusetts. http://www.springerlink.com/content/t11828205jt42001/ "Researchers in moral psychology and social justice have agreed that morality is about matters of harm, rights, and justice. On this definition of morality, conservative opposition to social justice programs appears to be immoral, and has been explained as a product of various non-moral processes such as system justification or social dominance orientation. In this article we argue that, from an anthropological perspective, the moral domain is usually much broader, encompassing many more aspects of social life and valuing institutions as much or more than individuals. We present theoretical and empirical reasons for believing that there are five psychological systems that provide the foundations for the world’s many moralities. The five foundations are psychological preparations for detecting and reacting emotionally to issues related to harm/care, fairness/reciprocity, ingroup/loyalty, authority/respect, and purity/sanctity. Political liberals have moral intuitions primarily based upon the first two foundations, and therefore misunderstand the moral motivations of political conservatives, who generally rely upon all five foundations." What I saw in the video was pattycake compared to Boston driving. Once in downtown Boston I saw a driver back his car up a full block the wrong way up a one way street, at regular driving speed. I guess since the car was facing the correct direction he figured it was okay. Can we give Boston [1] back to the British? [1] http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=riot+boston+red+sox&aq=f. Obviously you haven't followed British football. |
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