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Besides Lycra its now a bike cam for Geoff!!!!!
Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions
You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. Photo: Main photo: Ben Rushton CYCLISTS have found a new weapon in their battle to stay safe on the roads - the video camera. They are mounting the tiny cameras to their helmets or handlebars to film accidents or near misses. Police say they are willing to use the footage as evidence. On average there are three injuries a day for pedal cyclists in NSW, the RTA says, citing the most recent figures, from 2009. Advertisement: Story continues below A couple of years ago Nathan Besh hit a pedestrian who stepped in front of his bicycle. He said the pedestrian was at fault but did not admit responsibility. ''In a lot of situations like that there are no witnesses and no evidence, it is your word against theirs,'' Mr Besh said. As a result he started an online company which sells mounts for attaching cameras to bicycles. He has mounted a forward-facing camera to his bike for his Chatswood-to-city commute. Police could take action after reviewing video footage, a NSW police media spokesman said. ''Such footage could be used by police to make further inquiries, but whether they used that footage to take things further would be reviewed on a case-by-case basis,'' he said. A partner for Armstrong Legal, Lionel Rattenbury, said the footage could give cyclists strong ammunition if an incident made it to court, so long as conversations were not recorded without consent. ''It is akin to CCTV footage,'' he said. Simon Hookham, who rides from Castle Hill to work in St Leonards, uses the bike camera. ''The most common things I see are vehicles nearly shaving off my arm as they go past me, and cars that overtake without indication across double lines,'' he said. ''When you play the footage back, you can see just how close you came to getting hit.'' He puts his footage on YouTube with comments about the people he films, calling them ''tools'' and ''idiots''. But filming bad behaviour was not the best way to use bicycle cameras, said Omar Khalifa, the chief executive of Bicycle NSW. He said they should be used for tracking cycling routes or showing cyclists how to act responsibly. ''It helps no one if people point to the bad behaviour of everyone else,'' he said. ''While dangers exist, many people do the right thing and we don't want to scare people away from riding by showing only those bad situations.'' http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...227-1ba0x.html |
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On Feb 28, 10:00*am, Rob wrote:
Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. Photo: Main photo: Ben Rushton CYCLISTS have found a new weapon in their battle to stay safe on the roads - the video camera. They are mounting the tiny cameras to their helmets or handlebars to film accidents or near misses. Police say they are willing to use the footage as evidence. On average there are three injuries a day for pedal cyclists in NSW, the RTA says, citing the most recent figures, from 2009. Advertisement: Story continues below A couple of years ago Nathan Besh hit a pedestrian who stepped in front of his bicycle. He said the pedestrian was at fault but did not admit responsibility. ''In a lot of situations like that there are no witnesses and no evidence, it is your word against theirs,'' Mr Besh said. As a result he started an online company which sells mounts for attaching cameras to bicycles. He has mounted a forward-facing camera to his bike for his Chatswood-to-city commute. Police could take action after reviewing video footage, a NSW police media spokesman said. ''Such footage could be used by police to make further inquiries, but whether they used that footage to take things further would be reviewed on a case-by-case basis,'' he said. A partner for Armstrong Legal, Lionel Rattenbury, said the footage could give cyclists strong ammunition if an incident made it to court, so long as conversations were not recorded without consent. ''It is akin to CCTV footage,'' he said. Simon Hookham, who rides from Castle Hill to work in St Leonards, uses the bike camera. ''The most common things I see are vehicles nearly shaving off my arm as they go past me, and cars that overtake without indication across double lines,'' he said. ''When you play the footage back, you can see just how close you came to getting hit.'' He puts his footage on YouTube with comments about the people he films, calling them ''tools'' and ''idiots''. But filming bad behaviour was not the best way to use bicycle cameras, said Omar Khalifa, the chief executive of Bicycle NSW. He said they should be used for tracking cycling routes or showing cyclists how to act responsibly. ''It helps no one if people point to the bad behaviour of everyone else,'' he said. ''While dangers exist, many people do the right thing and we don't want to scare people away from riding by showing only those bad situations.'' http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...-mettle-to-the... BNSW's comments prove to be somtheing of a let down. We don't want to scare people away, but FFS, catching some of the dickheads that deliberately set out to injure us has to be a plus. I have a camera I sometimes were on my helmet, and sometimes on my chest. when it's on my helmet, it's clearly visible to all, and seems to have an amazing effect on driver behaviour - I get lots more space and courtesy, whether the camera's turned on or not! Tony F |
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On 28/02/2011 10:00 AM, Rob wrote:
Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...227-1ba0x.html Yeah I saw that article but I probably would not have very much use for it. I am seldom buzzed by cars and in the last 20,000-30,000km I am guessing it has happened to me less than 10 times and even then it has usually been about half a metre so whilst it is scary, I am not too fazed by it. I do see the argument for prosecuting those 10 or so drivers but even if I did nothing, what I have learnt in life is that they will very likely continue to commit irresponsible acts and they will be held to account eventually - nobody gets away with it forever cos there is no forever Maybe it is something to do with the fact that I ride in the middle of my lane which deters drivers from buzzing me, maybe it is becos I am sans the essential accoutrements - clothing (trying never to mention brand names here so I don't have to go back into theraphy ), sunnies, maybe it is becos my bike does look pretty rough and it is unlikely any driver would want to accidentally scratch their vehicle playing silly buggers, I dunno but any video footage of moi on me bike is gonna be real boring. I did start rigging up something with coathanger wire to hold my Nokia N95 on the head stem to record some of my rides but I got bored trying to figure out a locking mechanism to securely hold the phone so the phone did not pop out of the carrier. From a technical viewpoint, I would be curious enough to see what the setup is like, eg power reqirements, storage, camera capabilities, weight, connecting cables, etc. Might google for hat online shop mentioned. |
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On 28/02/2011 1:24 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
On 28/02/2011 10:00 AM, Rob wrote: Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...227-1ba0x.html From a technical viewpoint, I would be curious enough to see what the setup is like, eg power reqirements, storage, camera capabilities, weight, connecting cables, etc. Might google for hat online shop mentioned. This is the Go http://gopro.com/ Record up to 2.5 hours on a single charge and up to 9 hours total on a 32GB SD card (not included). Professional quality 1080p, 960p, and 720p HD resolutions records the action at 30 frames per second (60 fps in 720p) Dimensions (H x W x D): 1.6” x 2.4” x 1.2” (42mm x 60mm x 30mm) Weight: 3.3oz (94g) incl. battery, 5.9oz (167g) incl. housing |
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thefathippy wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:00 am, Rob wrote: Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...-mettle-to-the... BNSW's comments prove to be somtheing of a let down. We don't want to scare people away, but FFS, catching some of the dickheads that deliberately set out to injure us has to be a plus. I have a camera I sometimes were on my helmet, and sometimes on my chest. when it's on my helmet, it's clearly visible to all, and seems to have an amazing effect on driver behaviour - I get lots more space and courtesy, whether the camera's turned on or not! Tony F Reminds me of when I put an "L" plate on my Bundy built frame riding around Newcastle. Car drivers would swerve onto the other side of the road almost trashing themselves. Tom. |
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In article , Geoff Lock glock@home wrote:
On 28/02/2011 10:00 AM, Rob wrote: Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...227-1ba0x.html Yeah I saw that article but I probably would not have very much use for it. I am seldom buzzed by cars and in the last 20,000-30,000km I am guessing it has happened to me less than 10 times and even then it has usually been about half a metre so whilst it is scary, I am not too fazed by it. I do see the argument for prosecuting those 10 or so drivers but even if I did nothing, what I have learnt in life is that they will very likely continue to commit irresponsible acts and they will be held to account eventually - nobody gets away with it forever cos there is no forever If no-one pulls them up on it, then of course they will continue to commit irresponsible acts and never be held account. Might as well be forever. ... -- K.A. Moylan Canberra, Australia Ski Club: http://www.cccsc.asn.au kamoylan at netspeed dot com dot au |
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On 28/02/2011 10:54 PM, Tomasso wrote:
thefathippy wrote: On Feb 28, 10:00 am, Rob wrote: Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...-mettle-to-the... I have a camera I sometimes were on my helmet, and sometimes on my chest. when it's on my helmet, it's clearly visible to all, and seems to have an amazing effect on driver behaviour - I get lots more space and courtesy, whether the camera's turned on or not! Reminds me of when I put an "L" plate on my Bundy built frame riding around Newcastle. Car drivers would swerve onto the other side of the road almost trashing themselves. You are a bad evil man |
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On 1/03/2011 1:18 AM, K.A. Moylan wrote:
In article, Geoff Lockglock@home wrote: On 28/02/2011 10:00 AM, Rob wrote: Cyclists put mettle to the pedal to capture collisions You're on bike-cam . . . Simon Hookham with the video camera mounted on his bicycle, and some of the footage he has captured on his commute, including near-misses with pedestrians and buses. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/c...227-1ba0x.html I do see the argument for prosecuting those 10 or so drivers but even if I did nothing, what I have learnt in life is that they will very likely continue to commit irresponsible acts and they will be held to account eventually - nobody gets away with it forever cos there is no forever If no-one pulls them up on it, then of course they will continue to commit irresponsible acts and never be held account. Might as well be forever. To me, "forever" is when a B-double runs over me late at night or early in the morning, as the case may be, on that long dark lonely road I ride on regularly Other than that, there ain't no "forever" I do see your point about nailing those itinerants who transgress. Without affirmative action on the part of cyclists and coppers, those said *******s will simply not care until they do get caught. There is some comfort from the SMH article as it appears the coppers are willing to, at least, consider any captured footage, so that is a big plus point - in a way, cos any consideration is on a case-by-case basis only. |
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Rob wrote:
But filming bad behaviour was not the best way to use bicycle cameras, said Omar Khalifa, the chief executive of Bicycle NSW. Lol, once again BNSW indulges in bike bashing. |
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Geoff Lock wrote:
There is some comfort from the SMH article as it appears the coppers are willing to, at least, consider any captured footage, Naah, the coppers are better trained in PR puff. |
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