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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote: "Curtis L. Russell" wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:45:45 -0800, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: Memories aren't worth anything to a young person, but when you are old, either you've got memories or you've got nothing. Peel that away and it is as pessimistic as anything Dolan has said. People make memories at any age and some are too busy making them at 70 to worry about going through the albums quite yet. When I was the Dir of Finance at Charlestown Retirement Community, there was a widower of 70 plus that was well on his way to making a reputation better/worse than any randy kid in college. He walked around in bedroom slippers because he said putting on and taking off shoes was a waste of time socially. And he would think you're full of crap, for reasons different than Dolan's. The only one on this group who is never full of crap is old Russell? However, doesn't what Russell has just said tie in with my statement that we have a duty to be happy no matter what our age, and that death will cure us of all of our problems soon enough, including any problems we might be having with memories, pleasant or unpleasant. By the way, to somehow equate a happy life with memories associated with the reproduction function, or with the actual function itself, is foolish and nauseating - and an abomination in the sight of God and Man. That was mainly why Hemingway killed himself - because he couldn't get it up anymore. A 70 year old man who is still into fornicating is disgusting beyond belief. Yeah, and I'll bet all of those nasty old ladies he visits are just totally disgusted. ... beyond belief! ;-) Those poor little old sainted ladies, who are as pure as the driven snow, just want a bit of male attention, and here we have this old disgusting male goat going around and taking advantage of them. I am ashamed to be a man when I encounter disgusting and shameful tales like this. God will surely strike him dead. Oh Lord, give him with a heart attack or a stroke the next time he is up to his dirty old nasty business! Fornication for the pleasure of it is best left to teenagers. If you are not a teenager, then the only reason you should be fornicating is strictly for reproduction purposes. In other words, unless you are trying to make a baby, then fornication is a terrible sin and you are infinitely worthy of burning in Hell for all eternity. You will have deserved to have lived in Sodom and Gomorrah and to have suffered their fate (and some on this group think I have forgotten my Catholic upbringing). Your God provided all these hormones as an excuse to burn people in Hell? Your God is a little odd Ed, maybe you should buy a new one. Besides courses in anthropology, you need to take lots of work in religious studies (Roman Catholicism only - all others are heretical and essentially pagan). Whatever you do, do not take up with any of those animistic Eskimo beliefs or you will end up worshipping the whale or some other un-godly northern beastie. It seems you do not have a clue about why God created man the way He did. The hormones are there for the young to procreate, not for the old to engage in totally disgusting behavior. However, all my hormones ever did for me was to give me prostate cancer. Go figure! But who gives a damn about crap like that except for characters like Floyd and Russell. If they only knew how I was laughing at them they would never mention again that they think fornication is important for happiness. But anyway, many thanks for the good laugh guys! The two of you are better than anything I see on the boob tube. Have somebody show you how to turn it on, so you don't have see your own reflection all day while you stare at it. I have over 100 channels and there is quite often not one damn thing on any of them. How can that be? I usually just end up looking at the news on Fox. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote: "Edward Dolan" wrote: A 70 year old man who is still into fornicating is disgusting beyond belief. Yeah, and I'll bet all of those nasty old ladies he visits are just totally disgusted. ... beyond belief! ;-) Those poor little old sainted ladies, who are as pure as the driven snow, just want a bit of male attention, and here we have this old disgusting male goat going around and taking advantage of them. I am ashamed to be a man when I encounter disgusting and shameful tales like this. God will surely strike him dead. Oh Lord, give him with a heart attack or a stroke the next time he is up to his dirty old nasty business! I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. Otherwise, I'd have suspected you were a Baptist preacher, given these Hell's fire and brimstone sermons and the narrow minded racism that you've been dribbling out here... Let say a prayer together Ed, and ask for The Lord's help: Dear Lord, Please let me be able to help disgusting old ladies get a "bit of male attention" when I'm 70! *Please, pretty please!* Of course, I remember a Bob Hope crack that was pretty funny... He was about 76 or so at the time, and said people ask him about sex in your 70's. He smiled and said it's *great*. Then he looked wistfully to one side with that typical Bob Hope "here comes the punch line deadpan look", and said "Especially that one in the fall time!" Your God is a little odd Ed, maybe you should buy a new one. Besides courses in anthropology, you need to take lots of work in religious studies (Roman Catholicism only - all others are heretical and essentially pagan). Whatever you do, do not take up with any of those animistic Eskimo beliefs or you will end up worshipping the whale or some other un-godly northern beastie. No Ed, we don't "worship" *anything*. But Raven made the world, and we are but one part of it. It seems you do not have a clue about why God created man the way He did. Raven created everything, and he did it for Ellam Yua. The hormones are there for the young to procreate, not for the old to engage in totally disgusting behavior. However, all my hormones ever did for me was to give me prostate cancer. Go figure! That sounds like a straight line for a comedy show. I'm tempted, but I'll pass... anything I see on the boob tube. Have somebody show you how to turn it on, so you don't have see your own reflection all day while you stare at it. I have over 100 channels and there is quite often not one damn thing on any of them. How can that be? I usually just end up looking at the news on Fox. Try turning it on. -- FloydL. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. I suspect he got a few too many beatings from those damn nuns |
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"Mark Leuck" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. I suspect he got a few too many beatings from those damn nuns If that is a straight line, I *am not going to bite*! Ain't no way I'll say a thing about the priests. NO WAY. -- FloydL. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... [...] I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. Otherwise, I'd have suspected you were a Baptist preacher, given these Hell's fire and brimstone sermons and the narrow minded racism that you've been dribbling out here... A religion that is not full of fire and brimstone is a religion that is not worth bothering with. Hells Bells! If you can't threaten someone with Damnation and Hell Fire, then how on earth are you ever going to get him to be good and do the right thing. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Mark Leuck" wrote in message news:JGdUc.265202$a24.171569@attbi_s03... "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. I suspect he got a few too many beatings from those damn nuns The Sisters of Notre Dame were the harshest teachers I ever had. If you did not know your lesson, they beat you on your hands with a ruler. Damn! That could really hurt! -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... "Mark Leuck" wrote: "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. I suspect he got a few too many beatings from those damn nuns If that is a straight line, I *am not going to bite*! Ain't no way I'll say a thing about the priests. NO WAY. I was born out of my time and place. I should have been a wandering monk in the Middle Ages and I would have gone about the countryside telling everyone how much God hated them and how they were all damned to Hell for their sins. However, they could be saved by paying me an appropriate amount of money for their penance, and then I would say a prayer for them asking God to just assign the miscreants to Purgatory instead of Everlasting Hellfire. And it would be good enough for them! -- Regards, St. Edward - Order of the Perpetual Miseries - Minnesota |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... [...] I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. Otherwise, I'd have suspected you were a Baptist preacher, given these Hell's fire and brimstone sermons and the narrow minded racism that you've been dribbling out here... A religion that is not full of fire and brimstone is a religion that is not worth bothering with. Hells Bells! If you can't threaten someone with Damnation and Hell Fire, then how on earth are you ever going to get him to be good and do the right thing. Ed you are just too shallow. Whatever have you seen to indicate that threats of Damnation and Hell Fire keep anyone in line? For Heaven's Sakes, the *priests* have been abusing children right and left! And historically the church has incited more war and mayhem than any other institution. Clearly *that* is not the way. But I'll give you a couple of things to think about. One is, have you ever noticed how the religions based on written documents are the worst? Jews, Moslems, and Christians... have books written hundreds of years ago in languages that have changed such that the words can be twisted to mean *anything*. But the big difference is religions with a single deity are the most violent. For example, the Christian religions all claim there is one Almighty God, and they all claim that god is a loving and forgiving god. Now, despite all the hate and unforgivingness of the environment provided by that god, one thing *always* happens... that god forgives *anything* done in the name of religion! Which is to say, your threats of Damnation and Hell Fire are tooth less threats from the start, and *every* Christian knows *they* will be forgiven. (As opposed to how they all know that other guy is going straight to Hell... :-) You want a religion that does *not* encourage violence? Start by making it a religion based on oral traditions and an oral history. No written words to be twisted. Instead the *theme* of each story is always the same, no matter who the teller or the audience is, because it is the *theme* that is passed as knowledge, not the words. But more important, a non-violent religion must *never* be forgiving! And it must have not one, but many gods, preferably an infinite number of them!. Indeed, if *everything* is respected as having an equally important spirit that can affect each and every person depending on the actions of each and every person... there is *no* room for moral violations! Any one person doing wrong can cause havoc for everyone, because offending the spirit of even one speck of sand, one breath of wind, or of even your wife, might cause you *and* your family to suffer misfortune. Now *that* is a religion! (Guess who's?) -- FloydL. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote: "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message ... [...] I'm sure glad you pointed out in one article that you've not had a religion since you were 16, yet in another article stated you haven't forgotten your Catholic upbringing. Otherwise, I'd have suspected you were a Baptist preacher, given these Hell's fire and brimstone sermons and the narrow minded racism that you've been dribbling out here... A religion that is not full of fire and brimstone is a religion that is not worth bothering with. Hells Bells! If you can't threaten someone with Damnation and Hell Fire, then how on earth are you ever going to get him to be good and do the right thing. Ed you are just too shallow. Whatever have you seen to indicate that threats of Damnation and Hell Fire keep anyone in line? For Heaven's Sakes, the *priests* have been abusing children right and left! And historically the church has incited more war and mayhem than any other institution. Clearly *that* is not the way. Ah, yes, but those were back in the good old days. Now the only religion inciting murder and mayhem is the Muslim religion. But I'll give you a couple of things to think about. One is, have you ever noticed how the religions based on written documents are the worst? Jews, Moslems, and Christians... have books written hundreds of years ago in languages that have changed such that the words can be twisted to mean *anything*. That is why we have the Church, to constantly bring everything up to date. But the big difference is religions with a single deity are the most violent. For example, the Christian religions all claim there is one Almighty God, and they all claim that god is a loving and forgiving god. Now, despite all the hate and unforgivingness of the environment provided by that god, one thing *always* happens... that god forgives *anything* done in the name of religion! Which is to say, your threats of Damnation and Hell Fire are tooth less threats from the start, and *every* Christian knows *they* will be forgiven. (As opposed to how they all know that other guy is going straight to Hell... :-) Well, yes ... as a matter of fact I do know that I am OK but everyone else most definitely is NOT OK. So what else is new? However, all religions are fairly bloody minded including all the pagan religions that ever were. I think they have to be somewhat like this in order to ward off all those other false beliefs. After all, there is absolutely no evidence for what any religion believes about anything in connection with the gods and other supernatural phenomena. You want a religion that does *not* encourage violence? Start by making it a religion based on oral traditions and an oral history. No written words to be twisted. Instead the *theme* of each story is always the same, no matter who the teller or the audience is, because it is the *theme* that is passed as knowledge, not the words. But more important, a non-violent religion must *never* be forgiving! And it must have not one, but many gods, preferably an infinite number of them!. All cultures based on oral traditions have just about disappeared from the earth. Unless you have a very closely knit group indeed, oral traditions will be lost in a trice. You must have written documents or you will end up with nothing. That has been the genius of the Jews is that they have had a great written document to fall back on, no matter how tough things got for them. Indeed, if *everything* is respected as having an equally important spirit that can affect each and every person depending on the actions of each and every person... there is *no* room for moral violations! Any one person doing wrong can cause havoc for everyone, because offending the spirit of even one speck of sand, one breath of wind, or of even your wife, might cause you *and* your family to suffer misfortune. Now *that* is a religion! Is there no strife and warfare among the Eskimo? It may be that they are spread so thin that they seldom come into conflict. Another possibility is that their major struggle is with their physical environment, not leaving much left over for their fellow humans. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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