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  #141  
Old December 3rd 06, 07:45 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:59:20 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:07:04 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:06:51 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Biking on-road is much more hazardous. Significantly more on-road
cyclists
are injured or killed each year than off-road cyclists.

So what? Trails don't go to transportation destinations, so they are
irrelevant. The only solution to the car problem is to get rid of the
cars. DUH!

Who said anything about a car problem? DUH!


YOU did: "Biking on-road is much more hazardous."


I didn't say anything about cars. Once again, you're lying.


What's the "on-road hazard", if it's not cars, liar?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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  #142  
Old December 4th 06, 04:56 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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  #143  
Old December 8th 06, 06:01 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.


I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that. My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .


===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #144  
Old December 11th 06, 06:24 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Stormin Mormon
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Will the last child out of the woods please turn off the light.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..


  #145  
Old December 11th 06, 09:06 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
cc
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.


I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.



My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.


You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.
  #146  
Old December 12th 06, 04:53 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:06:44 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.


I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.



My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.


You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.


The government looks the other way when mountain bikers build their
own illegal trails and structures in the pulic forest. QED
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #147  
Old December 13th 06, 09:47 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
cc
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:06:44 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.
I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.


My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.

You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.


The government looks the other way when mountain bikers build their
own illegal trails and structures in the pulic forest. QED


Uh, Mike . . you live in the Bay Area. You are a stone's throw from a
plethora of "stunts" and other built-up features on trail systems I've
ridden. Again, your example does nothing as a comparative operator. (Not
to mention that you cannot generalize to an entire set of environmental
policies based on the localized enforcement of ONE, but that point has
been lost on you a multitude of times).
  #148  
Old December 17th 06, 05:53 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:47:13 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:06:44 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.
I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.

My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.
You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.


The government looks the other way when mountain bikers build their
own illegal trails and structures in the pulic forest. QED


Uh, Mike . . you live in the Bay Area. You are a stone's throw from a
plethora of "stunts" and other built-up features on trail systems I've
ridden.


Where? Or are you LYING again?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #149  
Old December 17th 06, 07:01 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
cc
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:47:13 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:06:44 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.
I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.
My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.
You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.
The government looks the other way when mountain bikers build their
own illegal trails and structures in the pulic forest. QED

Uh, Mike . . you live in the Bay Area. You are a stone's throw from a
plethora of "stunts" and other built-up features on trail systems I've
ridden.


Where? Or are you LYING again?


I have no incentive to lie
here, Mikie. I also have no
incentive to tell you, should
you get a bug up your ass to
try and get them torn down. I
read recently about your
activity as an ecoterrorist .
.. tsk tsk. I thought your
instrument of change was
education? Looks like you've
been lying again...

There have been plenty of
other pics floating around of
stunts built on public land,
those on spudhucksters' site,
for example, so don't just
take my word for it.

cc
  #150  
Old December 17th 06, 10:06 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:01:07 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:47:13 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:06:44 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:39 GMT, "Roberto Baggio"
wrote:

Buses.

They take up the whole lane, come far too close with little regard, and spew
huge amounts of black exhaust that is not just choking, but often makes
visibility very bad. In the dark and/or rain, it is even worse.

But what would you know. You're probably one of the bus riders.
I bike and bus. Our buses are MUCH cleaner than that.
My impression of
Canada is that their environmental legislation is WAY behind ours.
You're so awesome at providing
uninformed, biased opinion!
You're amazing! All you had to
do to provide some credibility
to that statement (or figure
out if you were putting your
foot in your mouth) was to a
do a couple google searches,
but even that is too much for
you . . . the more baseless,
the better for MJV.
The government looks the other way when mountain bikers build their
own illegal trails and structures in the pulic forest. QED
Uh, Mike . . you live in the Bay Area. You are a stone's throw from a
plethora of "stunts" and other built-up features on trail systems I've
ridden.


Where? Or are you LYING again?


I have no incentive to lie
here, Mikie. I also have no
incentive to tell you, should
you get a bug up your ass to
try and get them torn down.


Just like a mountain biker! As dishonest as the day is long.

I
read recently about your
activity as an ecoterrorist .


What are you talking about? Your vagueness is a good indicator of your
dishonesty.

. tsk tsk. I thought your
instrument of change was
education? Looks like you've
been lying again...

There have been plenty of
other pics floating around of
stunts built on public land,
those on spudhucksters' site,
for example, so don't just
take my word for it.

cc

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 




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