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Okay, the Giro is over, ...
Andre wrote:
On Jun 6, 2:08 pm, Colin Campbell wrote: wrote: On Jun 5, 10:00 pm, Colin Campbell wrote: and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet. I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing positives as that one in Paris. That's probably the case.... Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages that let them rest for hours on end. Can you rest while riding 24 mph for 80 miles before the real racing starts? From what the commentators were saying about Stage 21, the riders averaged around 28 kph (17 mph) for the first 60% or so of the "parade" into Milano. There were other days when they completely blew the slowest expected finishing time. The "As Live" reruns on Cycling.TV lasted over three hours on some stages. 24 mph is what the winner averaged for the entire race. The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself. I dropped all of the "real" climbers on a recent ride while averaging 12 mph or less than 20 kph. 38 kph is an average speed of 23.5 mph which would look good in a lot of crits, let alone 2000 miles of racing. Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true this year? Remember that this year's Giro set an average speed record. What does that tell you about the people claiming that you have to dope to make these super high speeds? I wasn't aware that this year's race was a record for speed. I'll have to bone up on those stats, I guess. This was posted in fun.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There weren't that many strong cyclists in the Giro. Most of the elite are waiting for the Tour. Andre I agree with you there. Who ever heard of "Leaky Gas" being the strongmen of a major tour? Jens Voigt could have changed things for Andy Schleck if he'd been there. Still, it was entertaining.... |
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Okay, the Giro is over, ...
"Colin Campbell" wrote in message
... wrote: On Jun 5, 10:00 pm, Colin Campbell wrote: and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet. I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing positives as that one in Paris. That's probably the case.... Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages that let them rest for hours on end. Can you rest while riding 24 mph for 80 miles before the real racing starts? From what the commentators were saying about Stage 21, the riders averaged around 28 kph (17 mph) for the first 60% or so of the "parade" into Milano. Well, while it's true that the Giro is a heck of a lot more laid back than the Tour, remember that someone sitting in a small room filled with cigar smoke and drinking beer can say a whole lot of things that he could never personally do himself. That may be a "parade" compared to what they are capable of doing, let's remember that their parade is twice the speed that most wannabees can do. Remember that this year's Giro set an average speed record. What does that tell you about the people claiming that you have to dope to make these super high speeds? I wasn't aware that this year's race was a record for speed. I'll have to bone up on those stats, I guess. This was posted in fun. And I'm just conversing about it with you. Nothing more than that. No hidden agendas or anything. Though half the posters here will now claim that I'm pro-drugs-in-sport. |
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Okay, the Giro is over, ...
And I'm just conversing about it with you. Nothing more than that. No hidden agendas or anything. Though half the posters here will now claim that I'm pro-drugs-in-sport. Frankly Tom, we do not give a $hit about what you say. |
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Okay, the Giro is over, ...
Colin Campbell wrote:
and I haven't read about any findings of doping yet. I guess the drug labs used in the Giro aren't as capable of producing positives as that one in Paris. Or, maybe only clean riders ride in the Giro, due to the "piano" stages that let them rest for hours on end. The average speed for the race was under 38 kph. That is a speed I can almost comprehend, although I could never hope to reach it myself. Speeds in the TdF have been MUCH higher. I wonder if that will be true this year? the giro is always like that... i was watching on video and thought gee, 26 k, i could keep up with those guys! They only seemed to turn on the gas at the last 60k. It's always a slower race and more relaxed...the fans actually get to SEE them! Maybe becuase it's the first grand tour of the season, so why kill yourself, especially when you have to hit climbs like the Mortirolo or the Zoncolan in the 3rd week? Go full throttle and you'll never make it, let alone make it to the tour. |
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