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I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine?
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On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 7:36:43 PM UTC-7, wrote:
I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark No, the 11 speed chain is narrower than the space between the rings. |
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That is pretty much what I thought Andrew thanks confirmed by some others too.
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On 26/04/2019 2:48 p.m., AMuzi wrote:
On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. What would be the difference in cranks between 10 and 11 speed cranksets? Distance between the rings? Just curious. |
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On 4/26/2019 2:23 PM, Duane wrote:
On 26/04/2019 2:48 p.m., AMuzi wrote: On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. What would be the difference in cranks between 10 and 11 speed cranksets? Distance between the rings? Just curious. Campagnolo Ten chain started out at 6.1mm, ended at 5.9mm. Eleven chain dropped to 5.5, Twelve are now 5.15 (that's across the outside of the rivet edge to edge.) Inside hasn't changed, that is, we're still working within a very old standard of 1/2 x 3/32". http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/MANYCHAN.JPG [1] Chainrings are not even very different after nine speed but distance between rings has crept slightly closer. I would fully expect a 9, 10, 11 or 12 chain to wedge in a 1970 classic crankset between the rings but an eleven chain on a ten crankset just isn't different enough to matter. [1] that photo is over fifteen years old so 'modern' in the note has no meaning now. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
On 4/26/2019 2:23 PM, Duane wrote: On 26/04/2019 2:48 p.m., AMuzi wrote: On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. What would be the difference in cranks between 10 and 11 speed cranksets? Distance between the rings? Just curious. Campagnolo Ten chain started out at 6.1mm, ended at 5.9mm. Eleven chain dropped to 5.5, Twelve are now 5.15 (that's across the outside of the rivet edge to edge.) Inside hasn't changed, that is, we're still working within a very old standard of 1/2 x 3/32". http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/MANYCHAN.JPG [1] Chainrings are not even very different after nine speed but distance between rings has crept slightly closer. I would fully expect a 9, 10, 11 or 12 chain to wedge in a 1970 classic crankset between the rings but an eleven chain on a ten crankset just isn't different enough to matter. [1] that photo is over fifteen years old so 'modern' in the note has no meaning now. Thanks for the explanation. -- duane |
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On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 9:23:28 PM UTC+2, duane wrote:
On 26/04/2019 2:48 p.m., AMuzi wrote: On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. What would be the difference in cranks between 10 and 11 speed cranksets? Distance between the rings? Yes. Slightly poorer shifting with an 11 speed chain and 10 speed crankset. It has no paractical meaning though. After my last crash I converted my last 10 speed bike to 11 speed and as Mark wants to do kept my 10 speed crankset and FD (Campagnolo). No problem at all. Lou |
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On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 11:48:06 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Well, I would generally agree with you but I did see a chain pulled down in between the rings of a 10 speed. That was a new one on me. |
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On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 1:43:54 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 9:23:28 PM UTC+2, duane wrote: On 26/04/2019 2:48 p.m., AMuzi wrote: On 4/25/2019 9:36 PM, wrote: I would like to upgrade my 6700 to 8000. Keeping the current 6700 cracks saves alot and it is a Wilier so cranks match bike. Will 11 speed work fine with the 6700 cranks and shift fine? Deacon Mark We haven't found a problem with 10 cranks in eleven gear systems, Shimano or Campagnolo. What would be the difference in cranks between 10 and 11 speed cranksets? Distance between the rings? Yes. Slightly poorer shifting with an 11 speed chain and 10 speed crankset. It has no paractical meaning though. After my last crash I converted my last 10 speed bike to 11 speed and as Mark wants to do kept my 10 speed crankset and FD (Campagnolo). No problem at all. Lou What is your opinion of the 11? What I see with the Campy stuff is that they have slightly better ratios and since they don't make 10's anymore, the parts are cheaper. All my stuff is 10 and maintenance is getting expensive. |
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