Helmet Nazis at It Again!

On 7 Oct 2006 16:55:43 -0700, wrote:


Are you or are you not in favour of an MHL that forces me to wear a
helmet?

I want you (and *only* you) to have a Mandatory Helmet LIFE; to be
forced to wear a helmet 24/7/52, in everything you do from riding a
bike to pulling your lil' pud.

I can take that as a yes, then.

Proven: Ozark is pro-MHL.

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Bill Z. wrote:
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The point was this: Helmet promotion material often uses a statement
like "up to 2/3 of bicycle fatalities involve head injury."
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Nobody gives a damn, Krygowski.

Well, nobody who wants to promote helmet use worries about it, that's
for sure!

Nobody except you and a few other usenet kooks care either.

Your "helmet promotional material" is
probably just advertising,

:-) Wrong again, Bill. Oddly enough, I don't recall ever seeing such
a statement in an advertisement.

No, that statement is used instead by people promoting helmets. These
are people who feel a need to scare others into using the products they
favor, even if it scares people away from bicycling.

Getting people to "[use] the products" is, err, part of "advertising".
If nobody will use it, you won't sell it.


and IMHO anyone who believes advertising is such a fool that they
probably shouldn't be riding a bike anyway.

So, people you define as fools should not ride bikes? Is there anyone
else your lordship would like to exclude?

Hit a nerve, haven't I. Of course, the comment was really that anyone
that dumb shouldn't ride bikes because they would obviously lack the
mental capacity needed to operate one safely. They shouldn't drive
cars either.

Personally, I believe in promoting cycling, not restricting it.

Even to people who lack the mental capacity needed to ride one with a
reasonable level of safely?


No, Krygowski, it is probably simply a factoid that someone thought
would help encourage the sale of a product. That's what advertising
is supposed to do.

Spoken with spectacular ignorance. As explained in another post, the
examples I gave did NOT come from advertising.

So you are wrong yet again. If you had any shame at all, you'd simply
stop posting.

Projection - Krygowski always makes mountains out of molehills and
then gets self-righteous when has behavior is pointed out.

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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:08:31 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

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What are you babbling about? I don't even remember seeing a post
from "Ozark" so he couldn't have said very much.

Look for this in Google groups:

"I'd like one in your jurisdiction that was well and truly enforced"

Oh, you mean the wiseass who suggested that you personally (and only
you) should be requried to wear a helmet? He was joking, you moron!
It was a case of letting the punishment fit the crime. You know, like
in _The Mikado_, where the Mikado expresses his desire to make
billiard sharks play with a twisted que and elliptical billiard balls.

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In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

Keep on a-wrigglin' & a-squirmin'. It just goes to show
what you pro-helmet zealot, car-driving, Nazi-Moron-Liars
are all about -- viz: greedy, selfish piggishness.

Oink, oink.

Are you still in elementary school?

Why do you have such an interest in elementary school students?

Let's just say that I wish that the parents of certain elementary
school students would monitor their children's use of computers more
carefully.

Please try to not run over any cyclists (helmeted or not)
while you're out, driving your stoopid car.

Please try to act like an adult, even if that is difficult
for you.

Actually, just for you, I /am/ acting like an adult.
Acting exactly like you, ya Nazi-moron-liar.

You are delusional, not to mention dishonest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course I am. So are you. So is everybody
with a world view or belief system.

But I don't foist my delusions on other people.
I like people. I don't wanna persuade 'em to
my will. Let 'em wear helmets if they want;
let 'em not wear helmets if they don't wanna.

But let the people know what to expect of their
glorified styrofoam egg cartons (and what not to.)

rest of this moron's post snipped.

Truth is so elusive. And you aid & abet its escape.

You're so abundant with your ad-hominae.

In a word, you're an insufferable asshole.

But I forgive you.


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In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,
SMS writes:
I'll leave it to readers to decide whether Keats is a bald-faced liar or
merely delusional.
Please try not to run over any cyclists (helmeted or not)
while you're out driving your stoopid car.

I guess I'll vote for delusional. The sooner this guy gets some
meds, the better.

Yet you still respond to him, instead of kill-filing him as most
of us have done.

You helmet zealots are too much.
But then, you car worshippers are too much, too.
Especially when you demand that we cyclists wear
helmets for /your/ car-driving comfort.

Liar - neither of us demanded that anyone wear a helmet, and I
certainly don't worship cars (nor computers, nor any other product I
might need) and would assume that Steven doesn't either.

Posting such rubbish really makes you look like an idiot.

wiping a drop of Bill Z's indignant spittle outa my eye

Hit a nerve, did I?


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On 7 Oct 2006 16:55:43 -0700, wrote:


Are you or are you not in favour of an MHL that forces me to wear a
helmet?

I want you (and *only* you) to have a Mandatory Helmet LIFE; to be
forced to wear a helmet 24/7/52, in everything you do from riding a
bike to pulling your lil' pud.

I can take that as a yes, then.

Proven: Ozark is pro-MHL.

Not only do you have a reading-comprehension problem (real or faked)
but you are obviously were being disingenious in your previous reply
to me were you listed someone named "Ozark": his user name is obs, not
"ozark". The thing after the '@' is the fully qualified name of a
host, not the name of a user.





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(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,

Actually, just for you, I /am/ acting like an adult.
Acting exactly like you, ya Nazi-moron-liar.

You are delusional, not to mention dishonest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course I am. So are you. So is everybody
with a world view or belief system.


No - you are delusional, not to mention dishonest,
just as I said.

You're so abundant with your ad-hominae.
In a word, you're an insufferable asshole.
But I forgive you.

Projection. You really need some professional help.
The word "hypocrite" comes to mind as well.

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In article ,
SMS writes:

Yet you still respond to him, instead of kill-filing him as most of us
^^^^^^^^^^
have done.

Yikes! Kill-file wars!

Reminds me of the classic flick: "Harvey" (starring Jimmy
Stewart) in which everybody is so busy talking, they don't
take the time to listen to one another.

No doubt I'm plentily kill-filed. Especially by up-tight
righties who sell battery-powered bike lights or glorified
coffee makers. And maybe by people who frown upon sensuality,
frivolity, and enjoying & sharing with others the natural
pleasures of this world.

I expect that's what you mean by "most of us."

Y'know, you're probably pretty kill-filed, yourself.


cheers, & kill-filed (but at least not cut-off)
Tom

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In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:
(Tom Keats) writes:

In article ,

Actually, just for you, I /am/ acting like an adult.
Acting exactly like you, ya Nazi-moron-liar.

You are delusional, not to mention dishonest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course I am. So are you. So is everybody
with a world view or belief system.


No - you are delusional, not to mention dishonest,
just as I said.

If you say so.

Yeah, sure.

Everything's okay.

Just calm down, and take deep breaths,

And let the nice man lead you down the hallway.

Ahhhh.

Isn't that nice & peaceful?

G'night.


Don't let the bedbugs bite.


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In article ,
(Bill Z.) writes:

Not only do you have a reading-comprehension problem (real or faked)
but you are obviously were being disingenious in your previous reply
to me were you listed someone named "Ozark": his user name is obs, not
"ozark". The thing after the '@' is the fully qualified name of a
host, not the name of a user.

Woah! Don't get'cher underpants in a twist (again).

Calm down, why don'cha?

Y'know what you need? Meditation.


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