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A Sorta Vintage Bike Technical Question
Hi all:
A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? I know I could just replace this bit with the modern equivalent, but I'm trying to keep the bike true to its period, at least for the moment. TIA Tom Young |
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On Mar 6, 6:02 pm, TomYoung wrote:
Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? If you can fit one, sure. |
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"TomYoung" wrote in message ... Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? I know I could just replace this bit with the modern equivalent, but I'm trying to keep the bike true to its period, at least for the moment. TIA Tom Young I would. BTW, what color is your 520? Nice bike. |
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Tom asks a very legit question;
Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? I know I could just replace this bit with the modern equivalent, but I'm trying to keep the bike true to its period, at least for the moment. TIA Tom Young Tom I'm _not_ a TREK expert. I can only relate my own experience regarding your question. I've worked on Raleighs, Schwinns, Fujis, all from that general period. What you've described is the norm from my POV. A ferrule at the chainstay braze-on and no ferrule at the rear derailer. If I was to see a ferrule at the derailer end I'd think, umm, that's odd. (talking spiral wound housing here) Good question. Best Regards - Mike Baldwin |
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TomYoung wrote:
Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? yes, and you can use a aluminium cap on the cable end, just as on the factory photo's -- /Marten info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl |
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"M-gineering" wrote in message ... TomYoung wrote: Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? yes, and you can use a aluminium cap on the cable end, just as on the factory photo's -- /Marten info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl There should be a ferrule on the end, doesn't have to be aluminum, the steel ones work just as well. What the ferrule does, is acts as a protector for the cable end. The derailleur cable ferrule looks different than the brake cable ferrule. Here is a photo of a derailleur cable ferrule: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ML._AA160_.jpg Mine is slightly longer than the one in the photo on my 1985 Specialized Expedition, but same configuration. Here is a brake cable ferrule: http://www.huskybicycles.com/Merchan.../311-188tn.jpg -tom |
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On Mar 6, 6:41 pm, "Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - 'Roid Rage Edition ®"
wrote: "TomYoung" wrote in message ... Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? I know I could just replace this bit with the modern equivalent, but I'm trying to keep the bike true to its period, at least for the moment. TIA Tom Young I would. BTW, what color is your 520? Nice bike. I think the 1985 Trek only came in one color, which was "Cumulus Grey." I'd call it Grey Metalflake and I was lucky enough to snag a bike with a near-perfect finish. Thanks to all that replied. Tom Young |
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On Mar 7, 6:39 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"M-gineering" wrote in message ... TomYoung wrote: Hi all: A pretty obscure question. I'm putting back together a 1985 Trek 520 I recently purchased and I have a question about the casing that carries the rear derailleur cable from the frame to the derailleur itself. Derailleur is Shimano 600, casing is that old-style wound-steel stuff. Anyway, the casing had a ferrule on the frame end (the "stop" for the frame end of the casing is the end of the chain stay itself) but no ferrule on the derailleur end. It looks like the stop on the derailleur is large enough to accept a ferrule. Should there be one there? yes, and you can use a aluminium cap on the cable end, just as on the factory photo's -- /Marten info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl There should be a ferrule on the end, doesn't have to be aluminum, the steel ones work just as well. What the ferrule does, is acts as a protector for the cable end. The derailleur cable ferrule looks different than the brake cable ferrule. Here is a photo of a derailleur cable ferrule:http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ML._AA160_.jpg Mine is slightly longer than the one in the photo on my 1985 Specialized Expedition, but same configuration. Here is a brake cable ferrule:http://www.huskybicycles.com/Merchan.../311-188tn.jpg -tom Ah, yes. I know I've seen that sort of ferrule before. Don't have one, probably can't get one, but thanks for the info! Tom Young |
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