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why are these nutters using cell phones for GPS ?

Per :
why are these nutters using cell phones for GPS ?

I would have asked the same question a year ago.

Then I gave my dedicated Garmin to a close family member.

Now I am using something called "Sygic" on my Samsung Note 1 and my
Samsung 10.1 Note tablet.

I don't drive that much, but so far Sygic is looking pretty good to me.
One device instead of two.... At 30-40 dollars (depending on mapset)
it's a lot cheaper than a dedicated device and it seems to me like it
offers the same or more functionality as the Garmin device I gave away.

But, like I said, I don't drive all that much so my evaluation is not
what anybody would call authoritative. OTOH, Sygic uses the Tom-Tom
mapset and they do cater to industry users.... so how bad can it be?
--
Pete Cresswell

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:19:06 PM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :

why are these nutters using cell phones for GPS ?



I would have asked the same question a year ago.



Then I gave my dedicated Garmin to a close family member.



Now I am using something called "Sygic" on my Samsung Note 1 and my

Samsung 10.1 Note tablet.



I don't drive that much, but so far Sygic is looking pretty good to me.

One device instead of two.... At 30-40 dollars (depending on mapset)

it's a lot cheaper than a dedicated device and it seems to me like it

offers the same or more functionality as the Garmin device I gave away.



But, like I said, I don't drive all that much so my evaluation is not

what anybody would call authoritative. OTOH, Sygic uses the Tom-Tom

mapset and they do cater to industry users.... so how bad can it be?

--

Pete Cresswell

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the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....ie you never really know where you are.

reads like wannabe film/silicon valley rangers/video gamers.

so he sez'but I WANNA CARRY ONE DEVICE" so place the Garmin on the bar....


My current residence/bird lab is on a road dog leg off the main route. The dog leg is a private drive. We have frequent off route visitors with normal GPS.

I paid a visit to the Mormon Handcart TRail....under 5 feet of snow...cool Bill.

mil spec is badenough.

Per :
the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....i

Sygic is 100% device-resident. Once the map databases have been
downloaded, the device running Sygic needs only access to GPS
satellites. WiFi or "Data Plans" can be totally turned off.... or left
on, since Sygic uses neither.
--
Pete Cresswell

right....stands to reason...otherwise yawl certified.

so your screen measures ?

reception in Manhattan ?

and sports ETA, COG, DTG, MAX SPEED, AB SPEED, SPEED WHEN RUNNING, TIME STOPPED ?

I can drag a garmin menu over...

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:23:42 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per :
the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....i

Sygic is 100% device-resident. Once the map databases have been
downloaded, the device running Sygic needs only access to GPS
satellites. WiFi or "Data Plans" can be totally turned off.... or left
on, since Sygic uses neither.

I loaded it once before and it started talking about joining,
registering and that my "purchases had" ... so I deleted it
immediately. However after reading your posts I reinstalled it and so
far they haven't charged me anything :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

Per John B.:
I loaded it once before and it started talking about joining,
registering and that my "purchases had" ... so I deleted it
immediately. However after reading your posts I reinstalled it and so
far they haven't charged me anything :-)

For such an apparently-sophisticated product from such an
apparently-mainstream company I was blown away by how confusing and
murky the presentation of purchase options was.

I just sort of held my breath and clicked "Ok" a bunch of times....but I
*still* don't know what I did... except that my credit card got banged
for the expected forty bucks (USA, Canada, Mexico...).
--
Pete Cresswell

On 11/26/2013 5:23 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :
the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....i

Sygic is 100% device-resident. Once the map databases have been
downloaded, the device running Sygic needs only access to GPS
satellites. WiFi or "Data Plans" can be totally turned off.... or left
on, since Sygic uses neither.

CoPilot is the same. $10 for the U.S. version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alk.copilot.namarket.premiumusa&hl= en.
Works pretty well but isn't perfect. Other countries' maps are a lot
more expensive.

Sygic is pretty expensive so it better be a lot better than CoPilot.

I tried NavFree but it sucks.

On 11/26/2013 5:23 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :
the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....i

Sygic is 100% device-resident. Once the map databases have been
downloaded, the device running Sygic needs only access to GPS
satellites. WiFi or "Data Plans" can be totally turned off.... or left
on, since Sygic uses neither.

Watch out for data leakage on some apps.

I use Droidwall to prevent apps that have no need for mobile data from
serving up advertising and wasting my data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.droidwall.free.
To use Droidwall the handset must be rooted.

My Android phone is on Verizon's network on a plan that costs $12 per
month but that only includes 10MB of data (that's MB not GB!). So I keep
mobile data turned off most of the time. There's Wi-Fi in most places
that I really have a need for data on the phone. I just don't like when
people use MMS because that doesn't work via Wi-Fi.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:36:31 -0800, sms
wrote:

On 11/26/2013 5:23 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :
the cell phone a$ks yawl pay for cell phone time in a less than mil spec environment.....i

Sygic is 100% device-resident. Once the map databases have been
downloaded, the device running Sygic needs only access to GPS
satellites. WiFi or "Data Plans" can be totally turned off.... or left
on, since Sygic uses neither.

CoPilot is the same. $10 for the U.S. version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alk.copilot.namarket.premiumusa&hl= en.
Works pretty well but isn't perfect. Other countries' maps are a lot
more expensive.

Sygic is pretty expensive so it better be a lot better than CoPilot.

I tried NavFree but it sucks.

OsmAnd was free :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.