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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On 8/30/2017 10:33 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. There are certainly places that "give me pause." I recall years ago, on a solo overnight camping trip, I rode toward Pittsburgh before heading further south. At one point near rush hour I found myself trapped on a limited access highway along a river, probably 45 mph speed limit with two narrow lanes (maybe nine feet wide), rough pavement, high traffic and a wall at my right side. I had to ride it for maybe two or three miles before managing to get to an intersection where I could escape. Cycling was legal there, but I wouldn't repeat the experience. It was VERY unpleasant, and had I known the situation ahead of time I'd have found some alternative. But sometimes these things happen, especially riding in unfamiliar areas. BTW, what did I do while riding that stretch of road? I controlled the lane, of course. Yes, motorists didn't like it. Many honked. But there was literally no alternative to riding lane center. Letting people squeeze by without changing lanes would have been stupidly risky. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 10:05:44 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/30/2017 10:33 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. There are certainly places that "give me pause." I recall years ago, on a solo overnight camping trip, I rode toward Pittsburgh before heading further south. At one point near rush hour I found myself trapped on a limited access highway along a river, probably 45 mph speed limit with two narrow lanes (maybe nine feet wide), rough pavement, high traffic and a wall at my right side. I had to ride it for maybe two or three miles before managing to get to an intersection where I could escape. Cycling was legal there, but I wouldn't repeat the experience. It was VERY unpleasant, and had I known the situation ahead of time I'd have found some alternative. But sometimes these things happen, especially riding in unfamiliar areas. BTW, what did I do while riding that stretch of road? I controlled the lane, of course. Yes, motorists didn't like it. Many honked. But there was literally no alternative to riding lane center. Letting people squeeze by without changing lanes would have been stupidly risky. -- - Frank Krygowski what do you think about tappan zee |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On 8/31/2017 2:06 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 10:05:44 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/30/2017 10:33 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. There are certainly places that "give me pause." I recall years ago, on a solo overnight camping trip, I rode toward Pittsburgh before heading further south. At one point near rush hour I found myself trapped on a limited access highway along a river, probably 45 mph speed limit with two narrow lanes (maybe nine feet wide), rough pavement, high traffic and a wall at my right side. I had to ride it for maybe two or three miles before managing to get to an intersection where I could escape. Cycling was legal there, but I wouldn't repeat the experience. It was VERY unpleasant, and had I known the situation ahead of time I'd have found some alternative. But sometimes these things happen, especially riding in unfamiliar areas. BTW, what did I do while riding that stretch of road? I controlled the lane, of course. Yes, motorists didn't like it. Many honked. But there was literally no alternative to riding lane center. Letting people squeeze by without changing lanes would have been stupidly risky. -- - Frank Krygowski what do you think about tappan zee https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/n...appan-zee.html -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On 8/31/2017 3:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/31/2017 2:06 PM, Doug Landau wrote: what do you think about tappan zee https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/n...appan-zee.html I don't know anything about this issue. That article's from 2014. What was the result? -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 12:43:18 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/31/2017 3:22 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 8/31/2017 2:06 PM, Doug Landau wrote: what do you think about tappan zee https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/n...appan-zee.html I don't know anything about this issue. That article's from 2014. What was the result? Not finished, but it will have a bike lane. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/n...e-opening.html They landed the bridge in a place that satisfied the NIMBY folks. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 10:05:44 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/30/2017 10:33 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. There are certainly places that "give me pause." I recall years ago, on a solo overnight camping trip, I rode toward Pittsburgh before heading further south. At one point near rush hour I found myself trapped on a limited access highway along a river, probably 45 mph speed limit with two narrow lanes (maybe nine feet wide), rough pavement, high traffic and a wall at my right side. I had to ride it for maybe two or three miles before managing to get to an intersection where I could escape. Cycling was legal there, but I wouldn't repeat the experience. It was VERY unpleasant, and had I known the situation ahead of time I'd have found some alternative. But sometimes these things happen, especially riding in unfamiliar areas. BTW, what did I do while riding that stretch of road? I controlled the lane, of course. Yes, motorists didn't like it. Many honked. But there was literally no alternative to riding lane center. Letting people squeeze by without changing lanes would have been stupidly risky. There, now that didn't hurt did it? That is, admitting that there are some times where vehicular riding just isn't right. I do vehicular riding as much as possible but there are simply times when a bike path is a relief. |
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Alexa says, 'Take the lane'
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 12:22:09 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/31/2017 2:06 PM, Doug Landau wrote: On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 10:05:44 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/30/2017 10:33 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 5:39:46 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.3453744 There are some tunnels on the San Francisco Penesula that are damned scary. One in particular has you 100 yards into the approach on a slight downhill grade going 20 mph or so and there's a sign that reads "Bicycles not Recommended". Coming from bright sunlight into the tunnel cars do NOT turn on their lights and bicycles become invisible as the cars speed up to 50+ mph. There is a shoulder wide enough that you aren't in too much danger. But the other side of the tunnel you are in the number 1 lane of a freeway exit that is four lanes wide with cars exiting the freeway at 70+ mph. Hugging the left curb until there's a break in traffic I managed to get across into the right shoulder but you can be damn certain I won't be making that mistake again. Two blocks before that entrance there is a sign that says - "bicycles recommended route" - but there is a lot of truck traffic in that area and it's very easy to miss the sign while watching the traffic. This is the sort of thing that causes Joerg to make his comments about bicycle paths. Of course as we all know this wouldn't even give Frank a pause. There are certainly places that "give me pause." I recall years ago, on a solo overnight camping trip, I rode toward Pittsburgh before heading further south. At one point near rush hour I found myself trapped on a limited access highway along a river, probably 45 mph speed limit with two narrow lanes (maybe nine feet wide), rough pavement, high traffic and a wall at my right side. I had to ride it for maybe two or three miles before managing to get to an intersection where I could escape. Cycling was legal there, but I wouldn't repeat the experience. It was VERY unpleasant, and had I known the situation ahead of time I'd have found some alternative. But sometimes these things happen, especially riding in unfamiliar areas. BTW, what did I do while riding that stretch of road? I controlled the lane, of course. Yes, motorists didn't like it. Many honked. But there was literally no alternative to riding lane center. Letting people squeeze by without changing lanes would have been stupidly risky. -- - Frank Krygowski what do you think about tappan zee https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/n...appan-zee.html Draw food trucks? Parking problems? Firstly, the idea is to NOT have a car. Secondly FOOD TRUCKS? I don't eat no Tacos off of food trucks. |
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