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A new year's resolution for all of us
"Paul - xxx" wrote in message ... Simon Brooke wibbled Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows: * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is primarily about motoring * I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known safespeed trolls * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross- posted to any other group Nope. Just because you don't want to see other viewpoints, doesn't mean everyones outlook is so blinkered. -- I don't think it is the alternative viewpoints that Simon has a peoblem with. It is more people who argue using flawed data/statistical analysis and refuse to listen to logical reasoning when this is pointed out to them. |
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A new year's resolution for all of us
Simon Brooke wrote:
Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows: * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is primarily about motoring I'm willing to be held to that one. * I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known safespeed trolls I am happy to killfile any thread that is going round in circles. However, you continue to be unfair to suggest that Matt B is a safespeed troll and, as far as I can recall, have yet to provide any evidence that he is. * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross- posted to any other group No, sometimes such discussion is relevant and constructive. When discussion ceases to be constructive that is when it is better to make one's excuses and leave the discussion. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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A new year's resolution for all of us
wafflycat wrote:
"Simon Brooke" wrote in message ... Could we all make a set of new years resolutions as follows: * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is primarily about motoring Actually, I enjoy motoring as well as being on the bike (or trike). Maybe I don't notice them, but are many threads *primarily* about motoring? I don't see many primarily about motoring, but their are a lot that touch on motoring in a way that directly applies to cycling. e.g. Road safety. * I shall not follow up to JNugent, Matt B or any of the other well-known safespeed trolls Some of us have the trolls kill-filed anyhow The problem is that they occasionally jump out of my kill files, and I usually put Matt B straight back in, but at the moment I am a bit bored. * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross- posted to any other group I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own wrist Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good. However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always descend into a troll/flame war. |
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A new year's resolution for all of us
Martin Dann wrote:
wafflycat wrote: "Simon Brooke" wrote in message ... * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross- posted to any other group I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own wrist Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good. However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always descend into a troll/flame war. Once the idiots have been killfiled (I do this simply by killing the subthreads in which they appeared), it swiftly becomes possible to find those who are willing to engage in intelligent debate. It should be borne in mind by a few more people on this group that 'holder of views with which I disagree' does not equal 'troll'. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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A new year's resolution for all of us
Ekul Namsob wrote:
Martin Dann wrote: wafflycat wrote: "Simon Brooke" wrote in message ... * I shall not contribute to any thread on uk.rec.cycling which is cross- posted to any other group I try not to cross-post anyhow, but occasionally have to slap my own wrist Cross posted threads are not by definition bad. Many can be good. However some crossposted to e.g. uk.wreck.driving will nearly always descend into a troll/flame war. Once the idiots have been killfiled (I do this simply by killing the subthreads in which they appeared), it swiftly becomes possible to find those who are willing to engage in intelligent debate. It should be borne in mind by a few more people on this group that 'holder of views with which I disagree' does not equal 'troll'. Oh, indeed. My own killfile includes people who advance views with which I agree, but do so repetitiously and in a way intended to provoke argument. If someone wants to come along and make a cogent, coherent and well-mannered argument that it is to the greater good of the community as a whole that motorists should be permitted to kill people with impunity, then I'm prepared not merely to listen but to engage in debate. It's people who endlessly repeat the same tired and dishonest arguments despite repeated rebuttal that end up in my bozo bin. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ IMHO, there aren't enough committed Christians, but that's care in the community for you. -- Ben Evans |
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A new year's resolution for all of us
Simon Brooke wrote:
Ekul Namsob wrote: Once the idiots have been killfiled (I do this simply by killing the subthreads in which they appeared), it swiftly becomes possible to find those who are willing to engage in intelligent debate. It should be borne in mind by a few more people on this group that 'holder of views with which I disagree' does not equal 'troll'. Oh, indeed. My own killfile includes people who advance views with which I agree, but do so repetitiously and in a way intended to provoke argument. If someone wants to come along and make a cogent, coherent and well-mannered argument that it is to the greater good of the community as a whole that motorists should be permitted to kill people with impunity, then I'm prepared not merely to listen but to engage in debate. I'm not sure anyone on uk.rec.driving has such views... It's people who endlessly repeat the same tired and dishonest arguments despite repeated rebuttal that end up in my bozo bin. Which is fair enough. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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