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Bikes With Short Top Tubes and High Front Ends - WAS:Interpreting Serotta Fit Cycle Data For Other Manufacturers?
You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them
after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices. Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is still up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart: http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube combination of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well. Barry "Steve Sr." wrote in message ... The Previous thread was getting long and I think it is time to bend it in a slightly different direction. Thanks to everyone who responded and especially to Jay. I went back to the person who did the fit and asked some more questions about the data. For the conventional frame Fit Cycle here are the ideal frame measurments: Seat Tube = 55cm. Top Tube = 55cm (but that resulted in a 70mm stem which is no good). So the top tube should be 53cm with a 90mm stem or a rediculous 51cm with a standard 110mm stem. Seat and Head Tube Angle = 73.5 degrees. Seat to Stem Height = Stem 8mm higher than seat. I think that these are all of the important numbers. If there is anything that I have missed let me know and I'll try to find it. So from here it does look like I will need a bike with a shorter top tube to fix the reach issue and a taller front end to address the height issue. I was originally looking at TI bikes which led me to Serotta and Litespeed and ruled out the carbon Trek Pilot. It looks like a stock Litespeed is probably out unless a Siena can be made to fit but the front end might not be tall enough. The Serotta Fierte looks like it might be a possibility in a 54S although the seat tube is a little short Can anyone offer any other possibilities for similar TI bikes that have this characteristic geometry? Thanks, Steve |
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BarryG wrote: You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices. Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is still up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart: http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube combination of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well. Barry "Steve Sr." wrote in message ... The Previous thread was getting long and I think it is time to bend it in a slightly different direction. Thanks to everyone who responded and especially to Jay. I went back to the person who did the fit and asked some more questions about the data. For the conventional frame Fit Cycle here are the ideal frame measurments: Seat Tube = 55cm. Top Tube = 55cm (but that resulted in a 70mm stem which is no good). So the top tube should be 53cm with a 90mm stem or a rediculous 51cm with a standard 110mm stem. Seat and Head Tube Angle = 73.5 degrees. Seat to Stem Height = Stem 8mm higher than seat. I think that these are all of the important numbers. If there is anything that I have missed let me know and I'll try to find it. So from here it does look like I will need a bike with a shorter top tube to fix the reach issue and a taller front end to address the height issue. I was originally looking at TI bikes which led me to Serotta and Litespeed and ruled out the carbon Trek Pilot. It looks like a stock Litespeed is probably out unless a Siena can be made to fit but the front end might not be tall enough. The Serotta Fierte looks like it might be a possibility in a 54S although the seat tube is a little short Can anyone offer any other possibilities for similar TI bikes that have this characteristic geometry? Thanks, Steve I keep reading the topic of this thread as BIKES WITH SHORT TUBE TOPS....what the heck does that say about me. That's a retorical question. Maggie... Happy Thursday...counting down to Friday |
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"Steve Sr." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0000, "BarryG" wrote: You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices. Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is still up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart: http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube combination of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well. Barry You're absolutely right! I found out about the Veneto from talking to the Litespeed rep. The geometry looks good based on the Fit Cycle numbers. It appears that I'm a year too late. The rep said that it was discontinued because there wasn't enough demand. For this reason I haven't seen many on Ebay. The few that I have seen are not the right size or have the wrong drive train (I'm looking for a triple Ultegra). Do you know any way to get access to dealers inventory? Since the bike was only discontinued last year there should be one out there in the correct size. Does anyone have any ideas how to find one? Yeah, you can do what I did. Just search the internet for Litespeed dealers or get the list direct from Litespeed. Email or call the delaers. You shouldn't have any problem finding a med Veneto. The dealer I found was willing to swap components to anything I wanted or to strip it and just sell me the frame, which is what I did. I'm building it up myself with Ultegra10 triple. Dealers have inventory. |
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Just use Google and look for Litespeed dealer Web sites. They usually have
an email link and just send them off a canned email that you're looking for a medium Veneto and ask them if they have one. "Steve Sr." wrote in message news On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 02:51:03 -0000, "BarryG" wrote: "Steve Sr." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0000, "BarryG" wrote: You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices. Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is still up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart: http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube combination of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well. Barry You're absolutely right! I found out about the Veneto from talking to the Litespeed rep. The geometry looks good based on the Fit Cycle numbers. It appears that I'm a year too late. The rep said that it was discontinued because there wasn't enough demand. For this reason I haven't seen many on Ebay. The few that I have seen are not the right size or have the wrong drive train (I'm looking for a triple Ultegra). Do you know any way to get access to dealers inventory? Since the bike was only discontinued last year there should be one out there in the correct size. Does anyone have any ideas how to find one? Yeah, you can do what I did. Just search the internet for Litespeed dealers or get the list direct from Litespeed. Email or call the delaers. You shouldn't have any problem finding a med Veneto. The dealer I found was willing to swap components to anything I wanted or to strip it and just sell me the frame, which is what I did. I'm building it up myself with Ultegra10 triple. Dealers have inventory. How did you go about making your list of dealers? I checked the Litespeed web site and the list of dealers didn't give any e-mail addresses. I sure don't have the time to call every dealer either. E-mail would be much more efficient. Did you try to get any inventory information directly from Litespeed? It seems that they should know where the Venetos got shipped. Although I'm sure they would rather sell you a new custom than help you find a NOS Veneto. Steve |
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