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"remy1942" wrote in message ... I might try getting my money back for those gloves but it's been a month and the store policy has a two week return. Toady I bought a pair of Craft Pro Layer 1 which I will use either as an insert to those Columbia gloves or another pair. aaaaaaarrrggggggggg Gloves just don't cut it but I have an answer Pogies: Another solution is Pogies. Bike pogies are oversized mittens that fit over the handlebars. They let you ride barehanded when you'd wear gloves and let you wear gloves when you'd need heavy mittens or gloves. I've been following up on this, but here's a caveat about webshopping: I got a pair of pogies meant for motorcycle use. They are far too big, intended to cover things like handlebar mounted fluid reservois etc that you find around the handgrip on a motorcycle. I would like to find the same concept executed for pedal-cycles. As regards extremities, I think it is important to keep the ankles and wrists warm and covered - if not, the blood flows in an exposed area on the way to the extremities and probably gets cooled here even if gloves and foot covers are otherwise effective. SteveC |
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DH wrote:
: I bought a pair of Columbia's top of the line gloves (model SM9125). I : bought them a month ago, but last night was the first real cold night in : that month and so I thought I'd give them a try. My wife and I biked for : about an hour in near freezing temperature. I have some 10 eurobucks ski gloves that are good down to almost 0 C. I doubt the fancy 80 buck cycling gloves would be any better... I switch to heavier ski gloves after that. For real weather I have Burton snowboard mitts. Come with removable fleece lining and big enough to fit an additional wool mitt inside. Should be good enough for a windy -15 C day (not so common here :-) Thin gloves and the mitts could make a nice very practical combination for weather that's not so cold. -- Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ |
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What Risto said. Ski gloves come much further up the arms than cycling ones
(which is nice if you still wear indescribably ancient and shrunken jerseys). I have a nice shiny new pair which have so far laughed at anything the weather has thrown at them which, admittedly, is not that much yet. We shall see... -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ ================================================== ========= Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter http://www.bhpc.org.uk/ ================================================== ========= |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:04:49 -0000, "Dave Larrington"
wrote: Ski gloves come much further up the arms than cycling ones (which is nice if you still wear indescribably ancient and shrunken jerseys). One of the areas in which we win, of course - no need for padded palms, so we can buy the best damn gloves in the world and not worry about numb thumbs :-) Guy === May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk |
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Mikael Seierup wrote:
: Lovely sunshine here today and 5C. Rode 2 hours along slightly iced over ponds : and creeks and along a nice darkblue ocean. If nothing else it gets the blood : flowing and wakes me up. Post pictures!!! : The day might only be 7 1/2 hours long right now : but it was a very nice one and in a week or so it starts getting lighter again. 7.5 hours of daylight? Some people are spoiled! -- Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
: One of the areas in which we win, of course - no need for padded : palms, so we can buy the best damn gloves in the world and not worry : about numb thumbs :-) In my experience ski + glove = padding. On the other hand we can save on riding suits because we could just take running suits or generic outdoors suits (goretex for 100 eurobucks etc). No need for fancy things like pockets in the back. -- Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ |
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You might want to look at these
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1071287356125 if you havn't seen them already. I just got a pair and am impressed with the quality. -- rtmc "DH" wrote in message ... | ... Also, I will | see if I can find a pair of poagies. I still like my idea of making a | small plastic windscreen for the handlebars, just small enough to go over | my hands. : | Dave Horne | |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
One of the areas in which we win, of course - no need for padded palms, so we can buy the best damn gloves in the world and not worry about numb thumbs :-) Except that the Speedmachine is in a Several of pieces strewn about Larrington Towers, the Baron is utterly unsuitable for commuting duties and the Trice not due until February, ergo I am currently using a Trek 4300 with slicks, mudguards and a boingy seatpost... -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ ================================================== ========= Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter http://www.bhpc.org.uk/ ================================================== ========= |
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..... more ... I wrote a letter to Columbia in the US and just now received
a call from someone representing them in the Netherlands. They will send me a free pair of gloves. This seems like excellent service. What follows is my letter to them from Dec 8 (the euro symbol may not display properly): Columbia Sportswear Company 14375 NW Science Park Drive Portland, OR 97229-5418 USA Monday, December 08, 2003 Dear Sir or Madam, I have a complaint regarding one of your products, your top of the line gloves, model SM9125. They are black in color, have an insert lining and the word Titanium on the outer shell. I bought them about a month ago for € 54.99 and only used them for the first time last night. The weather here has been fairly warm this winter and last night was the first time in about a month it was cold enough for me to wear them. I biked for about an hour and my fingers were cold. My wife wore a pair of fleece gloves that had Thinsulate insulation and her hands were toasty. Her gloves are in essence just an ‘insert’, cost one third the price or less than mine, have less than half the mass of mine, and yet she kept warm while I did not. I naturally assumed that my thick gloves, with its lining insert, would do the trick in cold weather. I was wrong. The temperature last night was not, I believe, below freezing, and I was personally surprised that your gloves did not keep me warm. When I bought the gloves, I had a long discussion with an employee of Perry Sports in Den Bosch (‘s Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands). The weather was warm at that time and I knew I could not judge if the gloves would keep me warm or not. I do a fair amount of biking and really need to have good gloves to keep my hands warm. I was told if I used the gloves instead of just wearing the gloves, I could not return them if I were unhappy. In order for me to use the gloves, I have to bike for an hour or two to know for sure. Also, to compound the issue, the gloves were bought about a month ago which is well outside of Perry Sport’s two week return period. I still have the Perry Sport price tag from the purchase and the original receipt. At this point, I do not expect anything from you, but want you to know that I am very unhappy with a product of yours. Today, as a possible solution to my problem, I have additionally purchased a pair of Craft Pro Layer 1 liners (€ 13.99) and will use them as inserts for the Titanium shells to replace the original inserts. I was assured by a manager of Perry Sports that these Craft Pro Layer 1 gloves/inserts would keep me warm and I hope he is right. Your gloves look like they are designed for skiing and if I am disappointed biking with them at speeds of 15 – 20 kph in or near freezing temperatures, I can well imagine I am not alone in being disappointed. Sincerely yours, Dave Horne |
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"DH" wrote in message ... .... more ... I wrote a letter to Columbia in the US and just now received a call from someone representing them in the Netherlands. They will send me a free pair of gloves. This seems like excellent service. What follows is my letter to them from Dec 8 (the euro symbol may not display properly): Columbia Sportswear Company 14375 NW Science Park Drive Portland, OR 97229-5418 USA Monday, December 08, 2003 Dear Sir or Madam, I have a complaint regarding one of your products, your top of the line gloves, model SM9125. They are black in color, have an insert lining and the word Titanium on the outer shell. I bought them about a month ago for ? 54.99 and only used them for the first time last night. The weather here has been fairly warm this winter and last night was the first time in about a month it was cold enough for me to wear them. I biked for about an hour and my fingers were cold. My wife wore a pair of fleece gloves that had Thinsulate insulation and her hands were toasty. Her gloves are in essence just an 'insert', cost one third the price or less than mine, have less than half the mass of mine, and yet she kept warm while I did not. I naturally assumed that my thick gloves, with its lining insert, would do the trick in cold weather. I was wrong. The temperature last night was not, I believe, below freezing, and I was personally surprised that your gloves did not keep me warm. snip Great, another pair of gloves, just like the other ones that won't keep your hands warm! at least they're free. |
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