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Versus in HD?
I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high
definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman |
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Actually, nevermind. I see that Versus has a separate HD channel. Give OLN
Canada about 10 years, then they'll have an HD channel too. J. Spaceman Jason Spaceman wrote: I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman |
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On Jul 4, 3:37*pm, Donald Munro wrote:
Jason Spaceman wrote: I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. |
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"Jason Spaceman" wrote in message
... I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman VS is definitely feeding their contractors HD. Dishnet/Echostar finally came out with an HD channel for VS, and the HD content is wonderful compared to the heavily-compressed and artifacted SD we lived with before. The first inkling that things were going to be better came with the rebroadcasted stages from the past (Lance: The Look Back) which were of far better quality than the DVDs (which were already better than what you saw on TV). --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote: "Jason Spaceman" wrote in message ... I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman VS is definitely feeding their contractors HD. Dishnet/Echostar finally came out with an HD channel for VS, and the HD content is wonderful compared to the heavily-compressed and artifacted SD we lived with before. The first inkling that things were going to be better came with the rebroadcasted stages from the past (Lance: The Look Back) which were of far better quality than the DVDs (which were already better than what you saw on TV). OLN Canada does not use the "Versus" brand at this point. It also has certain amounts of Canadian content not seen on the US channel. I believe that it's a case of the channel operator licensing the brand and some of the contract. At least on my satellite service, OLN Canada doesn't have an HD channel. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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On Jul 4, 12:43*pm, Jason Spaceman
wrote: I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. *Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman On Comcast, yes it's in HD, but in another 'package' that I don't have. |
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"P. Chisholm" wrote in message
... On Comcast, yes it's in HD, but in another 'package' that I don't have. Dang! You mean you can't see the blackouts in high fidelity? |
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P. Chisholm wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:43 pm, Jason Spaceman wrote: I thought I heard Phil Ligget mention that Versus was broadcasting in high definition, but on OLN Canada I'm only getting standard definition. Is HD only available in the US, and Canada being a few years behind the times is still only carrying it in SD? J. Spaceman On Comcast, yes it's in HD, but in another 'package' that I don't have. For anyone who's seen Versus Tour (or other racing) coverage in HD: Is the on-road picture quality any good? I assumed that the transmissions from the motos and the helicopters was low-def, so Versus HD would just allow us to see low-def source video rebroadcast in hi-def (which could be even worse). Then you're left with P&P's pores (and Bobke's receding hairline) in high-def. Seriously, though, was I wrong above? It's not too late for me to upgrade my Comcast "package." Mark J. |
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:24:00 -0700, "Mark J."
wrote: Seriously, though, was I wrong above? It's not too late for me to upgrade my Comcast "package." Mark J. The picture is pretty uniform HD, with no real drop off in quality. It does mean that we will probably get pixilation more often under bad conditions, but I can live with that. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Jul 6, 3:38*am, wrote:
The picture is pretty uniform HD, with no real drop off in quality. It does mean that we will probably get pixilation more often under bad conditions, but I can live with that. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... The on the road segments may be in 16x9 HD format size, but they are definitely NOT in "high definition" (full 760P or 1080i resolution) . You can tell this by looking at the foliage in the helicopter shots which is little more than a series of green smudges. Faces of the riders lose all detail. The very heavy pixelation during high action sequences is another give away . The video compressor is working into the red trying to fit the changing action into too small a pipe. Such pixelation is by no means inevitable, it's just a symptom that VS. is renting too little bandwidth and are cramming too much into it. Loss of detail and pixelation is an inevitable result of this. BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. VS IS JUST CUTTING CORNERS. The cameras may be shooting in true HD, but lack of adequate transmission bandwidth is killing the high definition. This is the same thing that happens when you try to shoe horn an HD video into a low bandwidth UTube picture. It's not HD any more. I believe this is because probably because the signal is being heavily compressed for satellite relay that the effective resolution is no better than "SD" standard definition analog. VS, probably rents a transponder that can't handle full HD bandwidth. (CHEAP) The screen ratio may be 16X9, but resolution isn't significantly better than on an old analog TV during the road sequences. Versus is is trying to hide this dumbing down by image manipulation. Long shots show the bunch looking sharper because Versus is apparently using a heavy "edge sharpening" filter on the receiving end to give the illusion of higher detail. This works in static shots in the booth, but IMO, on the road, this often looks worse. If you have ever put too much "sharpenning" into a photo in a program like Photoshop, you know what I mean. Some of VS 'HD" Stanley Cup games really suffered from over sharpening. If you watched VS "HD" coverage of the Spring Classics, you saw the same poor video quality. Essentially a standard definition broadcast in 16X9 format. I was hoping they would spend the extra $ for the Tour to broadcast true HD, but apparently the bean counters won. Zeno |
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