Andrew Muzi are you ok?

landotter aka terra lutra wrote:
On Sep 2, 1:11 pm, " wrote:
http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...er-fred/650758

Didn't look like Andy.[...]

Especially since the accident happened on August 18th.

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Celebrity culture is an opposite of community, informing us
that these few nonsense-heads matter but that the rest of
us do not. - Jay Griffiths

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landotter wrote:

On Sep 2, 1:11*pm, " wrote:
http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...aker-fred/6507
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Didn't look like Andy. However that motorist needs to get a suspended
license and jail time for assault with a deadly weapon.

And maybe a little extra time for being a lawmaker and setting such a
bad example.

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Still Just Me. wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:33:48 -0700 (PDT), someone
wrote:

On 2 Sep, 19:35, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 1:11*pm, "
wrote:

http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...wmaker-fred/65
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Didn't look like Andy. However that motorist needs to get a
suspended license and jail time for assault with a deadly weapon.

Not intentional, not assault.

Also, it would be battery. Assault would be, for example, if he
gunned his motor and caused the cyclist to think he was going to hit
him, but did not actually leave the stop line. Battery is actual
contact.

The only reason people are typically charged with "assault and
battery" is that they first engage in the assault (for example,
shaking your fist in someone's face to threaten them), then they
strike them (battery).

According to the assistant attorney general from Minnesota (who happened
to turn up to a club ride), the legal definition of assault is causing
fear in another person that you are imminently going to hurt them,
rather than actually hurting them (that is battery). I hadn't known
that until then, because of course the term "assault" is commonly used
to denote attacking or injuring someone.

Ozark Bicycle wrote:
On Sep 2, 3:34 pm, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:06 pm, Jobst Brandt wrote:

Max Otter wrote:
Dang--not only do you complain to me personally for using the nickname
I've been using for years and years--you feel the need to "out" me by
****ing up your attribution. Get checked for dementia and illusions of
grandeur.

He is "Brandt, the Great and Terrible", the once and (in his mind)
future king of rec.bicycles.* Don't f*** with him!! ;-)

the "great and mighty" jobst brandt is a pathetic old fool. not only is
he no good at math, he's a bull****ter of the highest order. for
instance, his version of his "porsche" experience has him leading the
fundamental redesign of their braking and suspension systems. reality
is, he spent a few months there one summer - a kind of working vacation.
his "stanford engineering" contribution is nothing you could ever see
on any vehicle - it was merely to drink their coffee, **** everyone off,
and **** off back home to the states with frankfurters shoved so far up
his ass by his former coworkers anxious to see him leave, he still
hasn't been able to **** them out. hence his attitude.

wrote:
http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...er-fred/650758

I ride one block from that corner twice a day.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

"jim beam" wrote:
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
On Sep 2, 3:34 pm, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:06 pm, Jobst Brandt wrote:

Max Otter wrote:
Dang--not only do you complain to me personally for using the nickname
I've been using for years and years--you feel the need to "out" me by
****ing up your attribution. Get checked for dementia and illusions of
grandeur.

He is "Brandt, the Great and Terrible", the once and (in his mind)
future king of rec.bicycles.* Don't f*** with him!! ;-)

the "great and mighty" jobst brandt is a pathetic old fool. not only is
he no good at math, he's a bull****ter of the highest order. for
instance, his version of his "porsche" experience has him leading the
fundamental redesign of their braking and suspension systems. reality
is, he spent a few months there one summer - a kind of working vacation.
his "stanford engineering" contribution is nothing you could ever see
on any vehicle - it was merely to drink their coffee, **** everyone off,
and **** off back home to the states with frankfurters shoved so far up
his ass by his former coworkers anxious to see him leave, he still
hasn't been able to **** them out. hence his attitude.

Your claim would indicate much personal knowledge of Jobst Brandt. Any
proof to back up these allegations?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
Celebrity culture is an opposite of community, informing us
that these few nonsense-heads matter but that the rest of
us do not. - Jay Griffiths

someone wrote:
On 2 Sep, 19:35, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 1:11 pm, " wrote:

http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...er-fred/650758
Didn't look like Andy. However that motorist needs to get a suspended
license and jail time for assault with a deadly weapon.

The cyclist was overtaking a slow moving bus at a junction, he should
have made sure it was safe. The SUV driver did well to brake at all
given the lack of visibility due to the positioning of the cyclist.
The driver should be held 100% liable, he should have been paying
attention and stopped at the red light or approached with caution if
the light had failed.

Not.
I know that corner. There's a long period of red both ways
between changes. Truck ran a light.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
"jim beam" wrote:
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
On Sep 2, 3:34 pm, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:06 pm, Jobst Brandt wrote:

Max Otter wrote:
Dang--not only do you complain to me personally for using the nickname
I've been using for years and years--you feel the need to "out" me by
****ing up your attribution. Get checked for dementia and illusions of
grandeur.

He is "Brandt, the Great and Terrible", the once and (in his mind)
future king of rec.bicycles.* Don't f*** with him!! ;-)

the "great and mighty" jobst brandt is a pathetic old fool. not only
is he no good at math, he's a bull****ter of the highest order. for
instance, his version of his "porsche" experience has him leading the
fundamental redesign of their braking and suspension systems. reality
is, he spent a few months there one summer - a kind of working
vacation. his "stanford engineering" contribution is nothing you
could ever see on any vehicle - it was merely to drink their coffee,
**** everyone off, and **** off back home to the states with
frankfurters shoved so far up his ass by his former coworkers anxious
to see him leave, he still hasn't been able to **** them out. hence
his attitude.

Your claim would indicate much personal knowledge of Jobst Brandt. Any
proof to back up these allegations?


what kind of "proof" do you want tom? I ride bike and i chat with
people here in the bay area. seems some people know jobst better than
he wants to be known.

Tom Sherman °_° wrote:
"jim beam" wrote:
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
On Sep 2, 3:34 pm, landotter wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:06 pm, Jobst Brandt wrote:

Max Otter wrote:
Dang--not only do you complain to me personally for using the nickname
I've been using for years and years--you feel the need to "out" me by
****ing up your attribution. Get checked for dementia and illusions of
grandeur.

He is "Brandt, the Great and Terrible", the once and (in his mind)
future king of rec.bicycles.* Don't f*** with him!! ;-)

the "great and mighty" jobst brandt is a pathetic old fool. not only
is he no good at math, he's a bull****ter of the highest order. for
instance, his version of his "porsche" experience has him leading the
fundamental redesign of their braking and suspension systems. reality
is, he spent a few months there one summer - a kind of working
vacation. his "stanford engineering" contribution is nothing you
could ever see on any vehicle - it was merely to drink their coffee,
**** everyone off, and **** off back home to the states with
frankfurters shoved so far up his ass by his former coworkers anxious
to see him leave, he still hasn't been able to **** them out. hence
his attitude.

Your claim would indicate much personal knowledge of Jobst Brandt. Any
proof to back up these allegations?


what kind of "proof" do you want tom? I ride bike and i chat with
people here in the bay area. seems some people know jobst better than
he wants to be known.

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,
landotter wrote:

On Sep 2, 1:11 pm, " wrote:
http://news.aol.com/article/video-sh...aker-fred/6507
58
Didn't look like Andy. However that motorist needs to get a suspended
license and jail time for assault with a deadly weapon.

Tim McNamara wrote:
And maybe a little extra time for being a lawmaker and setting such a
bad example.

That doesn't make sense.
Lawmakers are already the worst of bad examples. They give
criminals a bad name.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971