No reasonable expectation of a bike on the side of the road

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

Could only happen in the US, or could it?

Downloading ringtones instead of driving does not fit the legal
definition of recklessness.

Little Miss Ringtone is not going to have to live with it the rest of
her life; she appears perfectly capable of having completely gotten
over it already:

http://community.livejournal.com/roadies/328099.html

--
TimC
I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. -- Linus Torvalds, 1991

Just the thing to read on a quiet Saturday morning, now I'm off to
inappropriately rearrange the furniture and kick a few things.


--
cfsmtb

TimC wrote:
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

Could only happen in the US, or could it?

This is the country where a driver can sue a fast food shop for making
the coffee too hot, causing scalding when he spills it on his crotch
WHILE DRIVING. Surely a half-sensible judge, such as Judy, would say,
"You were drinking coffee while in charge of a two-ton lethal weapon?
Get out of my court you idiot."

Donga

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:03:51 -0800, Donga wrote:

This is the country where a driver can sue a fast food shop for making
the coffee too hot, causing scalding when he spills it on his crotch
WHILE DRIVING.

*She*.

Said plaintiff asked for medical expenses, and was awarded $BIGNUM because
defendant had been warned about too hot coffee on a number of occasions. A
contributing factor to the accident was that the coffee was too damn hot
to drink, and caused severe scalding. Coffee should be cooler to allow
immediate consumption (and better flavour, though that's obviously not a
concern in this instance). Increasing the temperature makes it last longer
in the pot so it can be sold over a longer period.

Drinking coffee in the car is stupid, though I've done it in the past [1].
But you can't exactly use that as a defense when you've sold the coffee
from a drive through window.

[1] I've done some very stupid things. I probably will do lots more stupid
things. But I'm learning...

--
Dave Hughes |
"We live in the interface between radioactive molten rock and hard
vacuum and we worry about safety." -- Chris Hunt

On 1 Dec 2006 17:03:51 -0800, "Donga"
wrote:


TimC wrote:
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

Could only happen in the US, or could it?

This is the country where a driver can sue a fast food shop for making
the coffee too hot, causing scalding when he spills it on his crotch
WHILE DRIVING. Surely a half-sensible judge, such as Judy, would say,
"You were drinking coffee while in charge of a two-ton lethal weapon?
Get out of my court you idiot."

Donga

I agree completely with that judgement.

I think anyone who makes a coffee that, after sitting for some period,
is still capable of scaulding human flesh, should be charged with
greivous bodily harm and thrown in hail for 25 years.

And in particular any clown that makes a chino or latte that as
capabale of burning flesh with milk at a greater temp than boiling
water, should get 30 years.
These mop jockeys have no concept that the milk is quite capable of
reaching temperatures above boiling water.
They chrun it under steam until they have to hold the jug with a glove
and cant touch the side of it.

I just turn around the leave the shop at that point right there.
Go find another shop where they know what they are doing with coffee.

On 2006-12-02, RV (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On 1 Dec 2006 17:03:51 -0800, "Donga"
wrote:
This is the country where a driver can sue a fast food shop for making
the coffee too hot, causing scalding when he spills it on his crotch
WHILE DRIVING. Surely a half-sensible judge, such as Judy, would say,
"You were drinking coffee while in charge of a two-ton lethal weapon?
Get out of my court you idiot."

I agree completely with that judgement.

I think anyone who makes a coffee that, after sitting for some period,
is still capable of scaulding human flesh, should be charged with
greivous bodily harm and thrown in hail for 25 years.

That's a cruel and unusual punishment! What size is this hail? The
size of golfballs? They would kill! Or, the just 25 constant years
of little pea sized hail? That would be pyschological torture.

And in particular any clown that makes a chino or latte that as
capabale of burning flesh with milk at a greater temp than boiling
water, should get 30 years.
These mop jockeys have no concept that the milk is quite capable of
reaching temperatures above boiling water.
They chrun it under steam until they have to hold the jug with a glove
and cant touch the side of it.

It was McDonalds; what do you expect?

I was desperate, and it was the weekend. I went to Subway with Mum,
and we got our food, she got a cappuccino, and I got a latte. When we
got served, they said "this is the strong one, this is the weak one".
Incidentally, they looked identical and were served in identical mugs.
Bloody country bumpkins -- wouldn't know good coffee if it was poured
in their face.

--
TimC
Being certified means I can legally be employed as a chain-sawyer. That means
that now the company can send me after spammers without running afoul of
occupational health and safety regulations. -- Anthony de Boer in ASR

TimC Wrote:

That's a cruel and unusual punishment! What size is this hail? The
size of golfballs? They would kill! Or, the just 25 constant years
of little pea sized hail? That would be pyschological torture.


That would be akin to stoning! I've suffered bruising across the
shoulders from extremely large hail, ie: trying to hunch over to
protect myself. Not one of Mother Natures most enjoyable party tricks
to endure.

Back on topic, you sure that myspace account is *her*? Sounds like a
right disconnected chickie babe, complete with her liking for xtian
ROCK. Oh yeah baby.


--
cfsmtb

TimC wrote:


It was McDonalds; what do you expect?

I was desperate, and it was the weekend. I went to Subway with Mum,
and we got our food, she got a cappuccino, and I got a latte. When we
got served, they said "this is the strong one, this is the weak one".
Incidentally, they looked identical and were served in identical mugs.
Bloody country bumpkins -- wouldn't know good coffee if it was poured
in their face.


Was it instant coffee? I have been served instant coffee 'cappucino' in
country towns - the last time was August, on the far north coast, at $3
per cup.

To get back on topic, I visited the blog of that airhead who mowed down
the cyclist. Sounds traumatised, doesn't she? Not.

--
beerwolf
(To reply by email, remove numbers from my address)

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:47:38 +1100, TimC wrote:

I was desperate, and it was the weekend. I went to Subway with Mum,
and we got our food, she got a cappuccino, and I got a latte.

The last time I saw someone who liked coffee order one in Subway, they
came *very* close to vaulting the counter to make it themselves.

Not that we urging him on or anything.

--
Dave Hughes |
Researchers in Fairbanks Alaska announced last week that they have
discovered a superconductor which will operate at room temperature.

Dave Hughes wrote:
Drinking coffee in the car is stupid, though I've done it in the past [1].
But you can't exactly use that as a defense when you've sold the coffee
from a drive through window.

On that logic, they wouldn't sell anything through a drivethrough.
Drinking a coffee would be barely more careless than scoffing a Mac.
You have to assume the driver takes care of their own duty of care.

Donga