Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Ive found indications of each my search but dont know enough of what
key words to use to find them for sale anywhere.



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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

There are brakepads which have a built in LED which lights up when
braking..

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:04:30 +0800, Mathias Koerber wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

There are brakepads which have a built in LED which lights up when
braking..

found them: Promax Ipad: https://shop.sunrisecyclery.com/item/10319/

Truepurple writes:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Never seen these. You could fit a microswitch into one or both of your
brake-levers...

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

I've seen these - once - they didn't work very well. But what 'risk'
is there in making a handsignal?

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Retro-reflectors in the spokes work extremely well, because the
pattern of movement is extremely distinctive and drivers immediately
recognise a bicycle (reflectors on pedals are good for the same
reason). Sticking extra lights on means more batteries, more weight,
more maintenance and more to go wrong.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:35:18 GMT, Simon Brooke
may have said:

Truepurple writes:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Never seen these. You could fit a microswitch into one or both of your
brake-levers...

I saw a kit somewhere, but was not impressed with the setup.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

I've seen these - once - they didn't work very well. But what 'risk'
is there in making a handsignal?

In traffic around here, you may not get that arm back from a left-turn
arm signal. Still, given the number of things already on the
handlebars of most non-roadie bikes in the area of the grips, mounting
a switch where it would not require taking a hand off the bar might be
a challenge. I can't recall seeing a bicycle in this area with a
functional turn signal setup.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Retro-reflectors in the spokes work extremely well, because the
pattern of movement is extremely distinctive and drivers immediately
recognise a bicycle (reflectors on pedals are good for the same
reason). Sticking extra lights on means more batteries, more weight,
more maintenance and more to go wrong.

Tirefly lights also seem to work well, and are effective from a
considerable angle. I've seen a local night cyclist who had three of
those per wheel. I only saw him in motion, so I don't know how the
two extras were mounted; I presume that one was on the valve stem as
usual. He used three different colors per wheel. This would not have
been a good setup to try to mix with functional brake lights or turn
signals, though.

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Whats a retro reflector and how does it differ from a regular reflector?

Ive found lights that turn on from the motion of stopping. But I forgot
where I saw the link. Plus it was in euros or something and didn't
include alot of details about how it worked.

Heres something else I found. http://brakelite.fws1.com/page10.html
Which seems pretty interesting but its hard to understand how it would
work from the website or even how much the light would cost.

I found the bike handle plugs but there no good. They each use two
batteries that cost $3 each at walmart yet only last 50 hours. I'm not
about to pay $12 every 50 hours of night riding. I hope I can find a
light that uses better batteries.

I suppose I could attach lights to my clothing or something but that
doesn't seem like it would look as good. Plus on my handbar it would be
the leading edge of my bike which would be more affective then in the
middle on my helm.

Any other leads or tips for solutions to the three things I mentioned
that anyone could offer would be great.



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On 16 Nov 2003 08:33:43 +1050, Truepurple
may have said:

Whats a retro reflector and how does it differ from a regular reflector?

Ive found lights that turn on from the motion of stopping. But I forgot
where I saw the link. Plus it was in euros or something and didn't
include alot of details about how it worked.

Heres something else I found. http://brakelite.fws1.com/page10.html
Which seems pretty interesting but its hard to understand how it would
work from the website or even how much the light would cost.

I'm not too impressed with their lights; their 7-LED unit can't
actually be turned completely off (the center LED flashes once about
every 6 seconds regardless), the switch isn't weathertight, and the
screws which mount the lens are plastic. That said, I got several of
them cheap on eBay a while back, and they have worked without failure
on the bikes where I've installed them. I also have made sure not to
put them where they'll get wet.

I have no data about the brake switch, but it looks like its level of
reliability would be heavily dependent upon the installer's skill.
They have the installation instruction pdf file available on the
website. (This is clearly NOT a site designed by Sheldon Brown, or me
either for that matter.)

I found the bike handle plugs but there no good. They each use two
batteries that cost $3 each at walmart yet only last 50 hours. I'm not
about to pay $12 every 50 hours of night riding. I hope I can find a
light that uses better batteries.

If it uses the common LR44 battery, I get those for 75 cents (my cost)
for a pack of 10, but they're a cheap Chinese brand instead of the
Duracell or Eveready that's sold at Wal-Mart. They seem to last about
half as long as the Duracell brand; for the money, then, they're a
freakin' bargain.

I suppose I could attach lights to my clothing or something but that
doesn't seem like it would look as good. Plus on my handbar it would be
the leading edge of my bike which would be more affective then in the
middle on my helm.

It's easy to fabricate an L-bracket from plumber's strap to add side
lights to an existing rear light mount. .

Any other leads or tips for solutions to the three things I mentioned
that anyone could offer would be great.

http://tired-iron.com/minibike/elec3.htm

http://www.securityworld.com/recreation/bikebrake.html

I haven't tried any of those on a bicycle, but they exist...and that's
just about all I know about them.

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Truepurple wrote:
Whats a retro reflector and how does it differ from a regular reflector?

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They're used by retro-grouches who like sewups, non-indexed
shifting, lugged frames, leather saddles, etc.

Seriously, conventional reflectors are retro-reflectors. They
reflect light back on a path parallel to the one it came in
on. Three mirrors, arranged as the inside corner of a cube, do
this. Ordinary reflectors consist of a large number of small
corner-cube reflectors molded into a single part. Aluminizing
is not required to make the cubes reflect; total or near-total
internal reflection makes them reflect well.

It's desirable to have the light return in a slightly widened
beam centered on its incoming path, so that enough of the light
from a driver's headlights gets back to the driver's eyes. A
simple diffuse reflector wouldn't be bright enough, and a near-
perfect large lab-grade corner cube would put the beam back
in the headlights and mostly miss the driver's eyes. Diffraction
from tiny mirror faces and imperfections in cheap molded plastic
keep the beam from being too narrow. They might even mold a tiny
amount of curvature into the mirror faces on purpose, but I'm
just speculating on this last bit.

Dave Lehnen

ruepurple asked:

Whats a retro reflector and how does it
differ from a regular reflector?

No differance. just another name for it (English?)

"May you have the wind at your back.
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