Rual America coming to save our cities

Rural America to the rescue! First they elect Trump for us, so that we
can be protected from terrorists and taco trucks. Now they are figuring
out how to fix our bike lanes for us!

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

I can hadly wait to be able to find something to fix for them, so as to
return the favor.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:43:07 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

It's not all of rural America. Just one idiot lawmaker.

Did you catch his logic for taxing bike lane users?
"Rep. Duane Quam, a Republican from Byron, said he wasn’t
out to make life difficult for bikers. Quam said he was
simply worried that a lack of education about biking laws
was making riders unsafe."

Besides his rather odd logic, he also doesn't know the correct term
for a bicycle rider (cyclist) and instead uses the term for a
motorcycle rider (biker).
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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:57:40 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:43:07 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

It's not all of rural America. Just one idiot lawmaker.

Did you catch his logic for taxing bike lane users?
"Rep. Duane Quam, a Republican from Byron, said he wasn’t
out to make life difficult for bikers. Quam said he was
simply worried that a lack of education about biking laws
was making riders unsafe."

Besides his rather odd logic, he also doesn't know the correct term
for a bicycle rider (cyclist) and instead uses the term for a
motorcycle rider (biker).

Well, given that many reports indicate that numbers in the range of 40
- 50 percent of bicycle automobile collisions are the fault of the
cyclist perhaps he had a point.
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Cheers,

John B.

On 1/29/2017 10:43 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
Rural America to the rescue! First they elect Trump for us, so that we
can be protected from terrorists and taco trucks. Now they are figuring
out how to fix our bike lanes for us!

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

I can hadly wait to be able to find something to fix for them, so as to
return the favor.

Concerning one statement in rebuttal: I don't know of many "robust
biker education programs taking place in schools and driver’s education
classes." Do those really exist in Minnesota?

However, this is not the way to solve the lack of cyclist education.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:40:55 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:57:40 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:43:07 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

It's not all of rural America. Just one idiot lawmaker.

Did you catch his logic for taxing bike lane users?
"Rep. Duane Quam, a Republican from Byron, said he wasn’t
out to make life difficult for bikers. Quam said he was
simply worried that a lack of education about biking laws
was making riders unsafe."

Besides his rather odd logic, he also doesn't know the correct term
for a bicycle rider (cyclist) and instead uses the term for a
motorcycle rider (biker).

Well, given that many reports indicate that numbers in the range of 40
- 50 percent of bicycle automobile collisions are the fault of the
cyclist perhaps he had a point.

Ok, so the permit|license|tax would generate some revenue, presumably
used for educational purposes. In the amounts that might be
considered reasonable, the best that could be done is support one or
two full time bicycle educators and maybe a pamphlet or two. That
assumes that the revenue would not be diverted for other purposes.

As proposed, the permit would only apply to urban areas in Minnesota,
which I guess explains why the headlines all call Duane Quam a "rural
lawmaker".

Enforcement of having a permit would be difficult, although the
revenue from fines could conceivably exceed the revenue from the
permits.

Oops, I'm late. Later...

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Per Tim McNamara:
http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

"...while riders under 15 years old would be banned from using bike
lanes."

What? Is this guy on drugs?
--
Pete Cresswell

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:43:13 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
Rural America to the rescue! First they elect Trump for us, so that we
can be protected from terrorists and taco trucks. Now they are figuring
out how to fix our bike lanes for us!

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

I can hadly wait to be able to find something to fix for them, so as to
return the favor.

We feel your pain Tim. Democracy at work isn't your kind of land.

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:57:45 PM UTC-8, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:43:07 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

It's not all of rural America. Just one idiot lawmaker.

Did you catch his logic for taxing bike lane users?
"Rep. Duane Quam, a Republican from Byron, said he wasn’t
out to make life difficult for bikers. Quam said he was
simply worried that a lack of education about biking laws
was making riders unsafe."

Besides his rather odd logic, he also doesn't know the correct term
for a bicycle rider (cyclist) and instead uses the term for a
motorcycle rider (biker).
--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Is it just me or isn't the vast majority of bicycle accidents due to wrong way riding and running traffic control obstacles? In other words - a lack of either education or respect for why these regulations are in place?

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 9:15:38 AM UTC-8, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Tim McNamara:
http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/27...ke-lane-users/

"...while riders under 15 years old would be banned from using bike
lanes."

What? Is this guy on drugs?
--
Pete Cresswell

Pete the ignorance of bicycle regulations and operations isn't just among riders themselves. These sorts of things get laughed off of the floor so it isn't as if there are any real threats.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:15:32 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

"...while riders under 15 years old would be banned from using bike
lanes."

What? Is this guy on drugs?


But streets with bike lanes are strictly for experienced riders who
know how to mitigate the hazards.

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Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/