Evaluating the * Administration's Achievements

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 12:40:57 -0800, "Mark J."
wrote:

On 3/2/2021 10:07 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441

Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid: https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB


It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought one
decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans to seal
well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches away,
so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk once every
decade or so.

I think storing the can upside down helps seal it. I never thought about buying kits at Freddy's, but I did the same thing at Western Bikeworks when they opened the NW store and had $.99 patch kits at the counter. That ended too soon. I do like the brush and he single pass application, although if you shake the can as recommended or store it upside down, you have to be careful not to let fluid drip everywhere from the underside of the lid.

$9 for a 10g tube of Rema is heinous. https://www.amazon.com/Rema-Vulcaniz.../dp/B0017RV5XG The same goes with Shimano hydro mineral oil. $12 for 100ml. I got a liter on sale for $16, which was an incredible bargain. It's gone up in price -- must be because of Biden. All bicycle consumables have skyrocketed in the last 40 years, some rockets slower than others.

-- Jay Beattie.

$9 is heinous indeed. Searching Amazon for "Rema vulcanizing" found
many cheaper options, including an 8oz Rema-branded can of fluid for
$16.40. Let me know how your can is doing in a few months, maybe I'll
try one again.

Mark J.

I haven't bought any "tube glue" for ages but the last time but my
local bike shop usually have a big jar of the little glue tubes next
to the cash register - 10 Baht each (about 30 cents). I usually grab a
handful when I pay for whatever I've bought and stick them in the
cabinet where I keep my tire patching stuff. So far none of them have
hardened in the unopened tube :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 02/03/2021 02:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/1/2021 4:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this
essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441



Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out
of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and
got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB



It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it
works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I
wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which
I already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

That looks just like my Rema patch roller.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qD0AA...CjW/s-l300.jpg

You have the real deal tool. The screen roller is narrower,
somewhere between the Rema patch roller and a pizza cutter. I forgot
I even owned it -- but found it while looking for something else and
decided to use it for my patch-a-thon.

Tools disappear and reappear -- its the spooky action of tools, or as
my friend used to put it, the wandering nature of chattel. I lose
tools that I'm actually using. I put them on the bench or the ground,
and they scurry away.

It's Bodgits Uncertainty Principle at work. The tool and the object of
the tool cannot remain in the same place. E.g. when removing a hex nut,
the hex key and the hex nut cannot occupy the same garage space
simultaneously, so at reassembly time, one will have changed state,
typically by absorbing a Bodgit and changing size or moving a spatial
distance governed by the size of the work bench.

On 3/6/2021 4:03 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/03/2021 02:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/1/2021 4:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this
essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441




Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out
of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and
got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB




It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it
works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I
wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which
I already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.

That looks just like my Rema patch roller.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qD0AA...CjW/s-l300.jpg

You have the real deal tool.Â* The screen roller is narrower,
somewhere between the Rema patch roller and a pizza cutter.Â* I forgot
I even owned it -- but found it while looking for something else and
decided to use it for my patch-a-thon.

Tools disappear and reappear -- its the spooky action of tools, or as
my friend used to put it, the wandering nature of chattel.Â* I lose
tools that I'm actually using. I put them on the bench or the ground,
and they scurry away.

It's Bodgits Uncertainty Principle at work.Â* The tool and the object of
the tool cannot remain in the same place. E.g. when removing a hex nut,
the hex key and the hex nut cannot occupy the same garage space
simultaneously, so at reassembly time, one will have changed state,
typically by absorbing a Bodgit and changing size or moving a spatial
distance governed by the size of the work bench.

Excellent analysis. That explains a lot. Thanks!

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 02/03/2021 20:04, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this
essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441



Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out
of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and
got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB




It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it
works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I
wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which
I already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought
one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans
to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the
contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches
away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk
once every decade or so.
If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to
escape from anywhere.

It a puzzzto me how *unopened* tubes of cement solidfy. It mmst be some
other chemical voodoo.

On 02/03/2021 21:22, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 11:54:32 AM UTC-8, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:40:28 p.m. UTC-5, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:04:56 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd
run out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I
went cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB



It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema
volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for
high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch
roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which I
already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg


I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I
bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to
get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long
before I can use the contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the
patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema
patches in bulk once every decade or so.

If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going
to escape from anywhere.
I agree with Tom. Turning it upside down may help slow down the
solvent loss, but won't stop it entirely.

Another option would be to add solvent when needed. I've done
that with things like white-out (ethyl ether, I think), and
regular rubber cement (hexane, I think). Don't know if the
vulcanizing liquid uses hexane or some other organic solvent.

-- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA
I've read that once a container is opened that it can't be
completely sealed again. That's why a it's recommended that a lot
of household things (besides paints and varnishes) be stored well
away from living quarters or open flames such as pilot lights.

I've decided to keep my can of vulcanizing fluid in ten ziplock bags
upside down in my toilet tank, next to my plutonium.

I can't decide if that's a container for water or some sort of Oakie
prepper apocalypse outhouse ****ter on tracks.

On 3/7/2021 11:36 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/03/2021 20:04, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute
wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes.
And this
essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441




Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and
I'd run out
of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went
cheap and
got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB





It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema
volatiles, and it works really well. It is a good buy for
high-volume flat repairers. I wanted to get a patch roller,
too, but just used my screen roller, which I already own and
works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.

I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the
can. I bought
one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get
the cans
to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I
can use the
contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the
patches
away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches
in bulk
once every decade or so.
If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are
going to
escape from anywhere.

It a puzzzto me how *unopened* tubes of cement solidfy. It
mmst be some other chemical voodoo.

The sainted Mr Brandt thought the crimp seal at the end was
imperfect.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 9:36:47 AM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/03/2021 20:04, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And this
essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441



Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run out
of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went cheap and
got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB




It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it
works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers. I
wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen roller, which
I already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I bought
one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to get the cans
to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long before I can use the
contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the patches
away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches in bulk
once every decade or so.
If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to
escape from anywhere.
It a puzzzto me how *unopened* tubes of cement solidfy. It mmst be some
other chemical voodoo.
Since some do and some don't, my guess is that the seam of rolled aluminum leak on some and not on others.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 18:36:40 +0100, Tosspot scribed:

It a puzzzto me how *unopened* tubes of cement solidfy. It mmst be some
other chemical voodoo.

volatile component leak out. Through paper, aluminised whatever and
plastic.

On 07/03/2021 19:06, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 9:36:47 AM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/03/2021 20:04, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-8, Mark J. wrote:
On 3/1/2021 2:37 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 1:24:34 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute
wrote:
I can laugh. It isn't my country going down the tubes. And
this essayist is genuinely funny.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...ilure-n2585441





Andre Jute
Fortunately over 3000 miles away

Fortunately over 3000 miles away but unfortunately still
connected to the internet.

So, I had another bunch of tubes I had to repair, and I'd run
out of my little tubes of Rema vulcanizing fluid, so I went
cheap and got a can of not-Rema vulcanizing fluid:
https://www.sherco-auto.com/8-oz-all...AhWwE ALw_wcB






It is thinner than expected, but has the smell-of-Rema volatiles, and it
works really well. It is a good buy for high-volume flat repairers.
I wanted to get a patch roller, too, but just used my screen
roller, which I already own and works surprisingly well.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg



-- Jay Beattie.

I'm interested in hearing about the shelf-life of the can. I
bought one decades ago, and it dried out on me; it's hard to
get the cans to seal well, so the volatiles can escape long
before I can use the contents.

I buy cheapo patch kits at Fred Meyer and then throw the
patches away, so I have fresh tubes of glue. I buy Rema patches
in bulk once every decade or so.
If the volatiles can escape from a closed tube they are going to
escape from anywhere.
It a puzzzto me how *unopened* tubes of cement solidfy. It mmst be
some other chemical voodoo.
Since some do and some don't, my guess is that the seam of rolled
aluminum leak on some and not on others.

I'd never thought of that, or noticed some do some don't. Well
everyday's a learning day!